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and a moderator. he praised each other and bashed the mainstream media. >> no shortage of hit pieces on you in the press over the last week or two. >> i thinks this is a function of these, the legacy media, these corporate journal -- they're in their little bubble. >> i saw a headline from the atlantic basically claiming that anyone who listens to this space on twitter basically a nazi. howard: but by then they'd lost half their audience, so why did ron desantis roll the dice on twitter not blowing up like a spacex rocket? he's hardly a big fan of the mainstream media and not a great...

the media kept touting each ballot as a crushing defeat for ken mccash think -- kevin mccarthy, although he was winning 95% of house republicans. that was especially true late friday night when after flipping most of his opponents to his side, mccarthy lost by one vote. you could see he was stunned as he walks away there, and one ally, mike rogers, made a beeline for matt gaetz who had taken a half step by voting present. not until the early morning our hours yesterday did mccarthy win. some of the talking heads predicted mccarthy would drop out. >> i suspect that when they come back...

Long overdue series of layoffs and closures that have seen the once-mighty laid low. and we're back with ben domenech, at the risk of overexposing him, whose piece is up right now at spectator.com. you start off by writing about kim kardashian's derriere, and i'm not saying that just to get people to keep watching -- [laughter] i would never stoop to such a act tick. but you say that a -- tactic. but you say a decade ago that body part generated 16 million views for patient magazine and what's become of paper magazine? >> they don't exist anymore. and that's what we kind of see when we look ba...

In -- spectator.com, and in los angeles, leslie marshall, both are fox news contributors. ben, my question is about the 20 holdouts. what did they stand for? what did they really want? did they want a deal or just to revel in the media attention? >> i actually think they wanted some very specific things, most of which they got. i think a lot of folks in washington, myself included, think they could have gotten there without this kind of display. part of the business of being a legislator is convincing the majority of people within your conference that these are the number of steps that need to...