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Rally getting debated here. so, you have that aspect of it, which is traditionally more of a speech issue that isn't really being fought. as to why they're there -- and this is something i think that's critical to look at. these cases should have a reason, okay? and whether that reason is hard and fast business damages, ie lost opportunities, which both sides are certainly talking about, or vindication of principle or vindication of reputation, that should be driving the case. like any case, you should have a goal and a result you're looking for with your client. and i don't know. and i think ...

So it's been interesting to see, his two missions in life are, number one, to save the climate. and number two, to get humanitarian to mars. so it's very interesting to see him get coded as sort of a right wing billionaire just because of the way he moved on the speech issue. it's very clear he has moved right on the speech issue, and he basically said that this week. but i think people are reading a lot of things into his intentions that he hasn't actually said. and what he has said though is that he would use this as another important problem facing humanity, right? and if you think about it...

Generation of american children? these grandstanders, they just don't care. they have forgotten about america's children. >> jesse: it's interesting you bring up the speech issue. joe biden himself has talked about how he struggled with a stutter his entire life. especially as a child. he, of all people, should understand how important it is to be able to see the other person's mouth, how important that is for developmental learning. among children. why hasn't he spoken out about it and why hasn't doctor jill biden, you know, mrs. education said the same thing? >> they have totally forgotten a...

They can police these things. there is other ways of getting at them in terms of, you know, not just calling it a speech issue, fair share of taxes and paying the cost these things entail and ways that are regulating them and making sure there is more players so it's not one company impacting so many people. there is all kinds of solutions that don't have to impinge on free speech. that's a difficult problem here. it's an incredibly difficult problem. >> well, where there is a will, there is a way. thank you. >> maybe. i don't know. next, she was an anti vax influencer and now, she's vaccina...

That said, facebook and other sites can't do it. they can do these things. they can police these things. there is other ways of getting at them in terms of, you know, not just calling it a speech issue, fair share of taxes and paying the cost these things entail and ways that are regulating them and making sure there is more players so it's not one company impacting so many people. there is all kinds of solutions that don't have to impinge on free speech. that's a difficult problem here. it's an incredibly difficult problem. >> well, where there is a will, there is a way. thank you. >> maybe. ...