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To vote no. >> we go through this dance all the time. it's dangerous. everybody i serve with understands that this could be catastrophic if we don't pass it. >> the government can't pay veterans benefits and maybe social security because it can't borrow and lacks sufficient calf. the gop is threatening a filibuster because democrats want to pass the big social spending plan by themselves. >> a single republican vote on spending measures. they think we should have the raise the debt limit for them. it's not something we're going to do. if they're going to spend the money on their own, they're g...

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.), a crucial moderate Democrat, has expressed reservations over the mounting costs associated with implementing President Joe Biden's legislative agenda.

The domestic side which democrats want. that two-year suspension. debt ceiling is huge, it takes a catastrophic crisis off the table until after the election. in terms of offsets, that's been the big back-and-forth, spending hawks want a lot of spending increases offset. about $75 billion is where negotiators ended up. one thing republicans are seizing on is at least a verbal agreement or acknowledgement from speaker nancy pelosi that they will not seek to put in poison pills, as they call them, into their spending measures, including restricting how the administration could move money around ...

Money with other spending measures. the fight could complicate lawmakers approving hurricane relief or the need for hurricane disaster need could make the border wall battle easy as pie. >> shepard: look at the dow now. the overnight here's the reason this is of interest. overnight all the signs were this was going to be a big day. all the trends were up. the early morning numbers were great. the early morning reality was good and then all of a sudden. we plunged more than 600 points yesterday but the big story monday was oil prices. it's a huge story today because the oil markets have closed ...

And now with judge kavanaugh have to go through another week of this, and i would hope people learn some lessons from just the raw nature of the senate hearing last week which again i thought senator grassley handled very well, but it was tough on the people involved and if you're scoring political points at the expense of human beings, you ought to rethink political strategy. jon: do you think it's actually possible? the senate seems to be more and more polarized with every supreme court vote? >> well, i think last week while that was going on, the house and the senate, the week before passed...