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People are always welcome to pay more of their money, this is not a revenue problem. the problem with the government is a spending problem. let's just pretend they all paid whatever the progressive gods wanted them to pay. in another billion. another 2 billion. another 3 billion? does anyone think anything would work better? would there be more productivity? would anything be going better than it's going right now in the answer obviously is no. you would just have more bureaucracy, more government overreach. so it's not about bringing in money. it's about spending money. >> tammy: indeed. jaso...

In his book Was Jesus a Socialist? author Lawrence W. Reed writes, “Almost everybody wants to help those in need. The crucial question is how to help. Let’s not make the mistake of arguing that to use force, plunder, and dependency is somehow ‘the Christian thing to do.’” [Emphasis his] Today we see the party in power in Washington, D.C. spending recklessly, ostensibly to help those in need. But one suspects they’re really just trying to buy votes by giving away “free” money. They are racking up debts so high they threaten our nation’s future. As Senator Rand Paul, Repub...

Agency, not a federal agency to begin with. and then secondly i don't think people will spend $600 on a hammer should be given more money. the bottom line is we don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. no matter how much revenue washington, d.c. gets they spend a lot more. so i don't trust these people any more than they've already got. >> leland: as evidenced by the one bipartisan agreement other than usmca at the end of this year was to spend way more money on way more things. take us back to what you do in politics in terms of fundraising and trying to message this. how muc...

Could look like a picnic by comparison. $14 trillion -- >> i don't think i was wrong. >> will get worse if it is a larger number. >> there is one thing, i like to measure the debt as a share of our economy. of the economy is bigger the main thing we always have is grow the economy, your ability to finance the debt. the thing that changed a lot in 30 years is interest rates when i came to washington were 10% or 11%, now they are to present. >> it begs the question we do have a spending problem and as fervent a proponent of the president's policy as you are i have not heard the land he says

Nomination, what they have done in many cases significantly changed the debate or changed the contours of the election going forward. >> you heard the last bit of the conversation we had with my colleague steve kornacki how in history primary challengers often don't work out well for the president who doesn't good on to win re-election. are you comfortable to know if you do issue a primary challenge, it could end up putting somebody like joe biden, bernie sanders or elizabeth warren in the oval office? >> how many angels dance on the head of a pin? i don't know and i don't worry about it. it's...