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As far as the negotiations are concerned, i think it's significant that both presidents, president putin and president zelenskyy have dropped key conditions. putin has dropped his regime change condition. he wanted zelenskyy out and zelenskyy has dropped, it seems, the demand to join nato at least at this time. so when both presidents make decisions like that,er it lends momentum to negotiations. >> i certainly don't want to eliminate that hope but we know putin's track record. it was just before the invasion, he denied ukraine exists as an independent country. his past record has been to use ...

>> carley: thank you so much. let's bring in congressman peter meyer. i want your reaction to what the russian foreign minister just said, ready to talk won't stop targeting u.s. military. sounds like more of the same, what say you? >> seems like a stalling tactic. if they want to talk about russian forces that invade ukraine, forces pulling back and coming to peaceful resolution, that is wonderful. as we've seen, their conditions are no, we're happy to stop fighting if we can maintain the territorial gains and try to demilitarize or whatever their excuse is to lock in the momentum they have h...

Surprised by zelenskyy's ask. there's an open channel of communication between kyiv and washington. they knew this was coming. they were able to prepare to send this package, which is largely what the europeans wanted here. they are -- officials i have talked to, to echo what we're just saying, skeptical also of the russian overtures for peace, believing it is a stalling tactic to replenish the forces that are they. they are still bombarding from a distance but getting more equipment for a push forward. >> we will go to break but keep everybody with us. michael beschloss, i don't feel comforta...

Can we expect anything concrete or realistic to come out of these negotiations? i mean is it just sort of a form of kabuki theater? what are the ukrainians getting out of this when all of these atrocities are happening around them? carried out by russians? >> i think it's just another stalling tactic on the part of the russians. they have lied to the west, to us, the entire west every step along the way. oh, we're just going to have a training exercise. there are only 90,000. there are 120,000. 150,000, 190,000. but only there to train and exercise, and by the way, we would never attack a resi...

Calculated. you can't get involved in other wars outside of nato. that is the whole point of it. how could a nato member offer security guarantees that doesn't end up dragging it and all the other nato countries in with it? so it is an extremely complex and sensitive time in these negotiations. potentially we're seeing some progress or potentially it is a stalling tactic that russia is using to rearm and to explain away why it has had such battlefield losses particularly in that area it claims to be pulling back from. >> richard engel for us there in kyiv, just after 6:00 there. thank you as a...