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They'll use k9s, they'll use search cameras they can put into small spaces. they'll use listening devices. anything available to them to try to locate any survivors. and they're going to do this as a step by step process. many of the people, you know, see this collapse and they say, why aren't the big, heavy equipment out there, why aren't the cranes out there? first and foremost, we don't want to disturb this rubble. we have part of a building that hasn't collapsed, that's unsupported. there's a lot of debris hanging off of the unsupported building. and so the rescuers are in tremendous dange...

They'll use search cameras that they can put into small spaces. they'll use listening devices, anything available to them to try to locate any survivors. and they're going to do this as a step-by-step process. many of the people, you know, see this collapse and they say, you know, why aren't the big, heavy equipment out there? why aren't the cranes out there? first and foremost, we don't want to disturb this rubble. we have part of a building that hasn't collapsed, that's unsupported. there's a lot of debris hanging off of the collapsed -- or the unsupported building, and so the rescuers are i...

Perspective, retired chief dave downey. thanks for being on. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> i know in your career you haven't seen anything exactly like this, right? can you give us a sense, based on your expertise, what these first responders are doing now at this point? we're eight-plus hours into when the collapse actually happened. we are told it is search and rescue. the mayor told us a couple of minutes ago on this show that she is hopeful, right, that maybe they'll find more people alive in the debris. what's going on from your perspective? >> absolutely. there's a very speci...

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But there is a step-by-step process. next week another hearing, a presentation in the judiciary committee from house lawyers who will go over the findings so far, because, remember, the intelligence committee had a two-month investigation where they gathered quite a bit of information. that will all be presented again in a form that can be seen on american television screens. that gives a sense where they'll be in the house of representatives. also they have to vote out the articles of impeachment from the committee. then you get to the vote on the house floor, but, of course, not very much ti...