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Point here about how the justice department may approach this and sort of do the -- keeping a little distance. what do you make of this move by the committee, and how do you see trump responding to all of this? >> well, i think you're right. it's obviously a little bit of a stiff arm. when i've heard from -- they've always been approaching this investigation in a very traditional criminal prosecution, where they sort of take a pyramid structure and go from the bottom up. you know, i think the appointment of jack smith -- looking at the higher levels of this. so it's clear that they've been pro...

This and sort of do the heisman, sort of, keeping a little distance from it. what do you make of this move by the committee? and how do you see trump responding to all of this? >> well, i think you're right that it's obviously a little bit of a stiff arm. what i've heard from sources at the justice department if they've always been approaching this investigation as a very traditional criminal prosecution. where they sort of take a pyramidal structure and go from the bottom up, and you know, i think the appointment of jack smith has raised -- that they're looking at the higher levels of this. s...

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Crisis. we're paying more for gas and groceries than we ever have. and surprise, surprise joe biden goes to opec. you mean we can't run this country on skittles and gummy bear and unicorn hair? we actually need oil out there? the whole thing is a joke. the american people feel the brunt of these policies and they're going to blame the democrats because, yes, they are in control, they'll pay the price this november. >>, you know, ben, i was thinking about their decisionmaking when they really push biden to the forefront in the nomination process. a lot of the left didn't want biden, but he wasn...

Documents or the possibility that it's something else really is about why go to this level this fast and why did this raid come to be. >> charles: so far president biden hasn't spoke out. you think he will have to soon? >> i don't know. it seems to me like they're giving it the heisman award, the stiff-arm. they're keeping the white house away from the doj. they have refused to comment. i said earlier i'm here on kiowa island. there's a big thunderstorm, for an event that was supposed to happen long ago. the president and his family are here. if he would like to speak out, we have the cameras ...