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President itself wants to do the interview and its only his lawyers holding him back. So what is really going on here . Does the president want to talk or not . Politico suggests the answer is yes. Despite the risks. Thats because of, quote, trumps belief in his selfcreated myth, that he can convince anyone of anything if hes simply given the opportunity to get them in a room alone. Apparently that includes Special Counsel bob mueller himself. I want to bring in nbcs Peter Alexander whos live in berkeley heights, new jersey. Peter, if the president really wants to do it, he could just say yes....

Thoimp said -- he left the door open here before saying that with the voluntary invitation he thinks mccarthy will cooperate but that the subpoena option is still on the table here. we have heard from congressman king zinger saying the subpoena option is on the table. all of them have left the door open. but it becomes a different story. we have seen different levels of subpoenas here, for steve bannon, the subpoena came, and then was obviously received to the department of justice. his claim to executive privilege is different than mark meadows' claim to executive privilege. and then, certain...

Kabal -- >> some deep state -- can save the president? >> they think it's one. this is one they actually want to see continue through the fall. so that they can use this. and i do agree i think the most likely subpoena option is likely to come after the midterms, not before. i don't think that the special prosecutor's office would risk that cataclysmic showdown in the midst of election season, knowing precisely what jim comey did and precisely how he has been raked over the coals ever since. >> there was another point last night that was interesting. giuliani appeared to a lot of folks to be t...

Person. that's why you see the filings today building up as much as his attorneys can. his legal practice, and the existence of current and former clients. so they can say that cohen the person is practicing law. these are documents that if viewed by the taint team, the privilege will be defeated. their argument is an interesting one if not a novel one. it's that, this is a situation similar to a subpoena. the documents have been seized. they're in a place. they're somewhere. so at this point going forward, why not let us review it just as if this was a subpoena? the problem is, they, the gove...