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Out, the president has stated that he wants to repeal and replace obamacare. that's what his actions were doing. that's what undoing these payments was part of that effort. and so i think it is an interesting question. he may sort of want credit for this deal or this win, that's something the president is always interested in. but as he said today and as the senators said, this is a short-term fix. there remains a question of what happens in the long-term. and there could be the potential to reach a deal with democrats. but the president has been committed to undermining obamacare than improvi...

National security council chief of staff, lieutenant general keith kellogg was interviewed in september. also today, nbc news learned the senate intelligence committee has subpoenaed former trump advisor carter page. page says he plans to testify, but the committee expects he'll invoke his fifth amendment right. with us for more on all of it, shannon petty piece, white house correspondent for bloomberg, and paul butler. paul, i think you lawyers call it exposure. what possible exposure does sean spicer have, in this case subset question, is it a good thing or a bad thing that the guy is known ...

American presidents, pulitzer prizewinning author and presidential historian, jon meacham, who's also an msnbc contributor. you and i are both obligated to quote once a week, so we're off the hook. >> it's actually in the contract. >> thank you for being here. is the plight way to ask this question, is president trump's modern era antithesis bush 41, both in terms of his years of service in the navy, youngest ever. >> the first time herb rt walker bush wrote a letter like this, he was 20 years old because he las two crew members.

Decided when to intervene should the president act erratically. we know there are measures from russia to matters of private travel. we know there are encroachments on free speech, free press, free expression. and so imagine if we have these concerns, what it would look like in a democratic congress who was providing accountability to this president. and so that a question i think some republicans are wrestling with. are we safer first as a mesh of national security with stronger accountability that we're simply not seeing from capitol hill? and i'm certainly not somebody embracing the democra...

>> you know a lot of us -- not just us but people we represented, people we fought with performed well in difficult circumstances. p pow's perform well in five years, seven years, getting tortured every day with a view they would never, ever go home. those are the tough guys and we all look up to them, and look up to them, because they are tougher than anybody. >> why pick a fight with a former pow member of the senate? >> there's an argument that says, if you're an expert, you're not very good on your feet, and you don't know very much, you'll do exactly that, and i think that's so in this ca...