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To every law student can tell you what everyone says. the number one course is civil procedure whether you like it or not. it all comes down to process, floyd, in the end every single time. just given what she was unable to prove, floyd, i wonder if her success definition was the idea of taking "the new york times" to court. they haven't had a trial in this instance in 50 years now. now she's got them in court having to apologize. they've taken a real blow in many respects, but you're right. this is waiting for appeal. it's begging for an appeal. we'll see what happens once we've got a verdict...

And i'm glad you stopped by today. you know what? i wonder if her success definition was the idea of taking "the new york times" to court. having a trial going to -- a trial on this instance in 50 years. now she's got them in court having to apologize. they've taken a real blow in many respects. but you're right, this is waiting for appeal. it's begging for an appeal. we'll see what happens once we've got a verdict. floyd abrams, thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> sure. look, that's not the only big trial that's happening today. i mean, these other two are very, very big, and we're watch...

Individuals close to the situation, they said al qaeda is not gone and presents a growing threat. they also took i think issue with the extraordinary success definition by president biden in saying it was a logistical success and strategic failure. there is a lot of daylight between the top military officials and president biden as much as they tried to carefully tread that ground. >> sandra: including change between cotton and austin on the input military leaders were giving the president. listen. >> president biden last month in an interview with george stephanopoulos said no military leader...

0 about 100 americans and that figure doesn't change. we need a real accounting for how many people, big difference between 100 and 4000. my biggest takeaway, we have no counter terrorism strategy and milley and mckenzie testifyod this, mckenzie said he is not confident we can prevent al qaeda or isis. >> harris: i am rushing, it is top of the hour, kayleigh and emily, everybody on "outnumbered," quick one for us as we ark wait the panel to reconvene. thanks for watching fox news. our coverage continues on "america reports." >> sandra: the senate armed services adjourning for a break, set to r...