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It's better now. if you go back three or four months, it's deteriorated. china is blatantly violating sanction and they're doing that to say to kim jong-uan supply sanction relief. you don't have to get it from president trump. >> steve: i want to stwich to the politics of this. when that moment happened when the summit was temporarily off because of what the chinese did that you spoke about, i thought that was really interesting politically because it showed to me that it feels like the president is all up side for him. because at that moment it looks like the whole thing was collapsing and h...

Love to sit down with robert mueller, nobody wants to sit down with robert mueller more than me but it has to be fair. can you see a scenario where it actually moves the president closer to actually sitting down with special counsel? >> his legal team is not going to let him sit down with the special counsel. there is simply no up side for him, other than it looks like he's being cooperative. as a former fbi agent, i would love for this president to sit down with this interview because he will tie himself into knots trying to unravel what he and those speaking on his behalf of the mess they've...

Testified in front of a bunch of prosecutors over the years and attorneys over the years. he thinks he could do a very good job. no up side for him speaking to bob mueller. >> bill: giuliani's message to me was if you get a subpoena we'll take you to the u.s. supreme court. they can probably make an argument they might have five votes now that stands up for the executive branch. do you think that is where we are headed? >> it's entirely possible. it will be interesting to see whether bob mueller tries to force him. quite a situation to subpoena the president of the united states. but he also -...

Pompeo's hearings. what stops him from firing mueller? >> i don't understand why as he thinks it through it is anything other than a satisfying gesture. by the grown ups in the room he is being told this is your own nuclear option. and rosenstein will be replaced by somebody. >> you can't fire everybody. >> they are protected by the civil service. you can't fire the investigators. >> i have a partial answer to that good question. i think firing mueller himself would be a very bad idea. no up side other than immediate gratification. but firing rosenstein -- i'm not advocating this, i hope it do...

Perjury charges be for the president? >> the president should be very concerned about being charged with a false statement. obviously, there is an. as we know, bill clinton was impeached for matters relating to obstruction of justice. i would tell you if. there's no up side for you, there's all down the road and he's inclined to explore it. i can't see why you would take the time of the president of the united states if you were doing what i think a lot of people, including reportedly john dowd, said, which is to politely decline the interview, and if there's a subpoena, take the fifth. >> jul...