Lives. this is what we should be doing and what we should have been doing for a very long time. title 42 actually sealed off the border in order, from our perspective, just to seal it off. what has happened is we put vulnerable human beings in more vulnerable and dangerous conditions in the mexican region. we need to lift title 42, allow for individuals to come into the united states and then have the community support, as we have done in the past, support asylum seekers who just need a chance at live. >> and we were seeing there secretary blinken and along with secretary mayorkas in panama. a...