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not simply a democracy at. we're but something that could actually destroy american democracy, another hour of velshi begins right now. hi begins right now. good morning, it is sunday january the 8th. i am ellen -- kevin mccarthy's new election as the speaker of the house, it was a historic one if not exactly for the best reasons. the first time for a speakership was divot sided on a multiple, ballots are where occurrence in the scope of all american history. mccarthy's bid this year was only the 15th time that has happened, it was 15 ballots but it was only the 15th time that it is ...

President to try to crack down as a way to breed good faith and get to those hard right republican lawmakers to the table all you have to note to know that is true is no the obama iman in shun who went through the nickname deporter in chief not only can look at republican lawmakers to get on the table for a broad overhaul of our immigration system he couldn't get a bill passed to support dreamers, which are one of the most politically popular groups in the country. on the democratic side, it is a risk. it is a risk to even talk about and suggest opening up pathways to immigration because of th...

But yet you hear the republican party with their hateful rhetoric that they used to relic their base and try to spread misinformation about immigrants and you saw this during the trump campaign. that's how he started the entire election. and they want us to divide our country. so it's sad with this is doing. it's tearing families apart. therefore you see republicans trying to on the one hand, support dreamers. but on the other, they continue to attack things like dhaka and say that obama and what obama did was beyond where he was supposed to do. >> how much optimism or pessimism do you have no...

That's one of the points of consensus in the conference. whether you have some people that support dreamers and an amnesty. but everybody agrees, how is that fair? that's my big question, how is it fair to grant amnesty to people here illegally and put them in place in front of people that went through the long process. i have friends that spent 12 years waiting to get citizenship. they did everything correctly. so it's a big issue. >> what about the notion of trading some kind of border wall construction for a deal on the dreamers, the daca kids? how do you see that? would you be in favor? >>...

Hey, if you make it offer over the border and you are under 18, you get amnesty. that's what daca is. why don't they codify that in the u.s. code? because they know voters don't want it. that's why. people don't want more illegal immigration. and so they won't try and pass it as a law. >> right. no, there are actually efforts right now, tucker, right? so the dream act was introduced recently by senator graham and senator durbin. there are about five, seven other bills both in the senate and the house. the polls actually show that americans do support dreamers and, in fact, some of your own f...