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Regret about it. this is what we knew at the time. what he knew at the time, what the world community knew at the time. part of the reason that we felt that he -- saddam hussein had wmd is because he wanted us to know that. he thought that the image of him having wmd kept him safe at home, discouraged his enemies in the region from attacking him, kept us out of his -- there. 14 resolutions of the united nations had been passed demanding that he live up to the terms of the surrender agreement and make accounting for all that material. he thumbed his nose at the world community. that's what we k...

But i do believe that there are over the horizon capabilities. we do this in other parts of the world, for which there is a threat as well. i believe we can do it here. holding the taliban accountable, look, the trump administration basically signed a surrender agreement with the taliban, gave them everything, held them no nothing. gave 5,000 taliban fighters that were in jail, had them released, which only augmented the taliban's ability to move as swiftly as it did with extra manpower. and at the end of the day, got nothing in return. including trying to negotiate with the afghan government,...

President's, you know, decision in terms of how it was executed, but we're also going to look at the history that led us to this point, including the immediate past history, where president trump in essence signed a surrender agreement with the taliban, and of which the taliban as far as i'm concerned didn't do any of the things that they were supposed to do in that agreement. >> speaking of the taliban, they've announced their interim government, a lot of familiar names from 20-plus years ago, when they were in charge. what are the implications in your view for not just the region but for any...

Collapse of the government, he likely would have accelerated the collapse of the government and produced the same situation. that's what he believes. charlie may believe differently, but i don't think biden's going to fire people for doing what he wanted done with the result that he is content with. >> charlie? >> well, look, there has to be some level of accountability. i don't know how anybody can really defend what has just occurred. i mean it breaks my heart to see this sacrifice. it seems -- i don't want to say it was in vain, but people sacrificed so much for this. i mean how can anybody...

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