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Wish to blow us up, all of a sudden americans are very, very concerned. >> you are seeing both sides of the issue. you think it is okay for the nsa to collect data. >> and it is okay for google to collect data. i don't really care. >> but you actual lie think snowden -- you think he should be in prison for it? >> yes, absolutely. >> and who could disagree with you? perhaps the man to your right. >> i don't even know where to start with this story. use of the phrase man up is so obviously problematic. >> actually where are the feminists on this? where are they to attack john kerry. >> they are ...

Williams for t. >> i was trained as a spichlt in traditional senls of the word. i lived, worked, undercover. overseeds pretending to do a job that tie am not. being assigned a name that is not mine. but i am a mek ni cal specialist. expert. i don't work with people. i don't recruit agents. what i do is i put systems to work for the united states. >> the national security agency decloond ined to comment on the interview. snowden has been living in russia to escape prosecution for liking documents on u.s. surveillance programs. >> all right. a short break. of next on "cnn newsroom." >> i think a...

>> it's still creating political tension and blowback as far as getting policy from the cia and transparency has been helpful. it may not be u.s. soldiers going into conflict, but this is war by a different method, and we have to be very understanding, appreciative of the policy impact. i think that is, again, where perception and reality is working. it's in the situation about surveillance. the president was in the united states senate when we first heard the "new york times", i believe it was, about warrantless surveillance, warrantless wiretapping, the congress had placed that under the fiz...

Concerned, and we will, of course, be following all of it for you. now on to the spin. nearly one year ago edward snowden became a household name when he released classified documents on secret surveillance programs. he exposed the nsa mass surveillance operation and how it worked. he is a wanted man. he searched for a safe haven. for ms. he has been in exile in russia. the u.s. has insisted snowden was a low-level analyst, but in an exclusive interview with nbc brian williams snowden lamz his role was much larger than that. >> i have wourpd worked undercover overseas. i have worked for the na...

>> for the layman, how does what you put together combat that? >> right. so we're actually a small team of physicists and nuclear researchers from harvard and m.i.t. and we created an e-mail solution that's immune from nsa spying. the way we do this is we use a technology called end to end encription. it means is when you click send on your e-mail, as soon as you click that, your data is encrypted and protected so that when it's going through the internet, if the surveillance programs want to spy on you, all they can see is scrambled and encrypted data. >> whereas with other e-mail, you're say...