wish to blow us up, all of a sudden americans are very, very concerned. >> you are seeing both sides of the issue. you think it is okay for the nsa to collect data. >> and it is okay for google to collect data. i don't really care. >> but you actual lie think snowden -- you think he should be in prison for it? >> yes, absolutely. >> and who could disagree with you? perhaps the man to your right. >> i don't even know where to start with this story. use of the phrase man up is so obviously problematic. >> actually where are the feminists on this? where are they to attack john kerry. >> they are taking a lunch. i want to take what kerry says and contrast it with reality. come back here and stand in our system of justice and make a case with what is wrong with the nsa surveillance programs. as i'm sure the secretary of state well knows that is something snowden wouldn't be able to do. the judges ruled that in