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point on both sides because people have anticipated this for so long. some people were itching for a fight. >> they think war is a glorious thing and let's go and do it. >> but in the spring, lincoln's overeager young friend from springfield, elmer ellsworth, a short but very dashing commander of a drill team would go with the lincoln boys to the roof of the white house and look out with a telescope. and over the river they saw a confederate flag flying from the top of a hotel. and ellsworth, for one, was offended. >> ellsworth led a band across the river to tear down the confederate...

Talk about that from your experience? >> of course. i don't know an african-american that doesn't associate that phrase with making us feel unwelcome, like we don't belong here. that's outrage us. we are americans. we are patriots. we love our country. we have as much right to be here as anybody. and i think it's un-american to say go back where you came from. what kind of talk is that? our country gets stronger when good people work hard and challenge the status quo. the decency, the morality. that's what we want to focus on. the policies and the rhetoric and the tone of this administration, ...

Evidence to contradict what they have said. so they are trying to create escape hatches and ways out. but it's not going to work. in the e ehe end, robert muelle going to come forward with his report. my suspicion sits' going to be a powerful indictment that's going to demonstrate layers and layers of wrongdoing. so all that trump and his supporters are going to be able to do is to try and slander mueller and discredit the investigation not because those charges will be true. they are not. robert mueller is a man of tremendous integrity and the investigation is first class. but that's what the...

Was that the president who is a lawyer, constitutional lawyer, getting way out ahead of himself or was he trying to signal -- >> i think the reason the fbi officers are so upset with this is they now think how can an obama justice department bring a criminal charge if one is warranted against hillary clinton when the president of the united states has declared he doesn't think this was a threat to national security? and it's actually not the first time this has happened. if you recall, he made some similar comments when general petraeus shared his diary with his biographer, suggesting again it...

Philosophical issue that is driving this issue, and it is money that matters, but in tehe end, they are fighting over policy and politics. >> well, if something comes out of the meeting that briann keeler is talking about, you will have to change all of the numbers. >> i will have the graphics >> i will have the graphics department busy. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >r we woulp yr you fep you feel ayo government shutdown. share your thoughts with cnn ireport.com. tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern, it will change the showdown the you. and the fed is questioning libyans right here in ...