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but they care about more than a candidates issue position and values is electability. and mike pence is struggling. he is not popular with the pro- trump crowd which is office of toppositethe biggest part of tha caucus universe right now. but he also -- met people who might also like him are worried about his electability but he is not connecting really with either side the pro- trump or the anti- trump side. he is in a bad place for the caucuses. shannon: in the meantime tim scott is had a nice surge here in iowa we spent a lot of money. he's got ad dollars to pour into iowa. it's a very nice optimistic message, galen does he go a long haul with islands? are they flirting with him what's going on there? >> it will depend who you talk too. i have spoken with a lot of iowa voters who really like what they hear from tim scott for the optimistic message for a lot of them is a change of pace is something they can see themselves really appreciating.