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That gets you to about 50,000. but the state department only getting about 250 out a week. that will take four years and there are many more behind them. i wonder, can the u.s. do what is necessary to get these folks out? because it is not just money, it is not just the program, it is physically getting them out of the country. >> jim, if we really wanted to do this, we could do it. what is happening now is the whole issue of special migrant visas, the interpreters, has fallen to the state department. they don't have the resources and they don't have the authorities to really make things happe...

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The interpreters, the court personnel are stationed there. lucas: president obama tried to close gitmo. born in kuwait ksm went to small college before turning to life of terrorism beginning in afghanistan. in court this week questions to the new judge appointed the case with only 2 years on the bench one day over the minimum required. the seventh judge is signed here at gitmo. costs the taxpayer $13 million a year to house each prisoner, 39 remain. congressman mike wlatz before being elected says it's worth it. >> we don't need the capacity to detain the folks and detain the individuals and n...

Granted access inside the maximum security courtroom along 10 family members of 9/11 victims, all sitting behind thick reinforced glass. >> 15 years ago asm and dozen other men transferred from cia black sites. at the time president bush denied they were tortured. >> the united states does not torture. it's against our laws and it's against our values, i have not authorized it and i will not authorize it. >> a former gitmo defense attorney says these hearings would move much faster on the mainland. >> holding a trial in cuba where none of the lawyers, none of the judges, the interpreters, the ...

Them. you can see in the pictures and stuff that the people are there waiting in lines. so it's kind of difficult right now to just even talk to somebody at the gate. >> difficult and dangerous, to boot. do they feel betrayed by the americans? >> this is something that -- the siv, the special immigration visa program, we, the interpreters, woed with u.s. troops for 11 years, ten years. we are wearing the same thing like the soldiers are. a lot of the soldiers and veterans right now are going through the same mental health issues that we are going through because we are under pressure and they ...