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they... one does not really know what the condition is at the moment. it seems they are in a position to be transferred if conditions allow it. ithink it is be transferred if conditions allow it. i think it is still a very risky operation, and it is very fluid situation. but it is only those people who have been rescued so far who are lucky, but the remaining ones do face a challenge, both with the weather and also the transfer to the weather and also the transfer to the small trolley. just the weather and also the transfer to the small trolley.— the small trolley. just to clarify, the small trolley. just to clarify, the source _ the small trolley. just to clarify, the source who _ the small trolley. just to clarify, the source who said _ the small trolley. just to clarify, the source who said the - the small trolley. just to clarify, i the source who said the helicopter mission had been suspended but the on the ground one was continuing, what does it mean? it on the ground one was continuing, what does it mean?— what does it mean? it means the helicopters _ what does it mean? it means the helicopters consider _ what does it mean? it means the helicopters consider it _ what does it mean? it means the helicopters consider it would - what does it mean? it means the helicopters consider it would be i helicopters consider it would be very dangerous to ship them at night because there isn't sufficient light. so it is very risky. also it

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think now the focus is not on the helicopters but on the trolley, as to how they are able to manage it. i think that is the focus, that is what we are being told. find think that is the focus, that is what we are being told. and somebody who has worked _ what we are being told. and somebody who has worked in _ what we are being told. and somebody who has worked in these _ what we are being told. and somebody who has worked in these sort - what we are being told. and somebody who has worked in these sort of- who has worked in these sort of operations before, what are the main challenges and considerations? i think firstly the weather is always a challenge. it is not easy to rescue anyone from a height like that. it is always dangerous to transfer them to even the helicopters when they were flying or to the small trolley. i think that is one challenge, they have to do it with great care. although they are extremely experienced, the commandos in pakistan are supposed to be one of the best in the world. they are

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joining me now from karachi is talat masood. he is a retired pakistani army general. very good to have you with us. i am not sure how much you are across the latest there, but some reports suggesting the helicopter rescue could now have been suspended. what would you say it now means? what could now have been suspended. what would you say it now means?— would you say it now means? what it means is because _ would you say it now means? what it means is because of _ would you say it now means? what it means is because of the light, - would you say it now means? what it means is because of the light, they l means is because of the light, they couldn't operate and it would be dangerous for the one still there in the left. what i think they are doing, they have brought in a small trolley and they are trying to shift the people from the big trolley to the people from the big trolley to the small trolley. that is an intricate operation, but they hope they will be able to succeed. i

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