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buddies and allies to overturn the 2020 election. as we reported on this program at this hour yesterday, mark short, he's of course the former chief of staff to former vice president mike pence, testified before a d.c. grand jury last week. now according to new multiple reports, we also know that a second senior pence aide also testified. that would be greg jacob, pence's legal counsel. both men, of course, had a front row seat to the extraordinary pressure campaign on mike pence by trump and his allies, people like john eastman, to get pence to stop the certification of president jo...

Be groundless and i think if we add on top of that the fact that this whole green base sweep as co-conspirator peter navarro, i would argue that he's part of this had made very, very clear was an outright effort and attempt to get fake electors and now we have the emails to show donald trump's own attorneys called them fake, at least one of them. >> yeah. >> and then made a joke about using a different word. all of that, all of that speaks to intent, and it speaks to intent as part of a conspiracy and a solicitation for others to conspire to defraud the united states government. >> you also th...

President trump was trying trying to really flip the narrative around this whole biden versus trump dynamic after hitting him and discounted wholesale polls says they are all fake polls in texas and pennsylvania and other places. he says all the polls that he's seen recently are all wrong and he calls them fake, but i think he's calling them fake, brianna, because they are probably not showing him what he wants to see which is showing a tougher competition than he would probably like and he says they are all wrong and he's going to do a lot better than people expect him to come next november. ...

Voters is down slightly. it needs to go up. they are telling him, just enact your program. don't worry about a congress that isn't supporting legislation to get big-ticket items done. and don't worry about all the distractions and diversions and discouragement that others who are still trying too throw logs in your path are throwing your way. focus on the agenda. and he's doing that. >> that really caught my eye. i mean, the short hand for that is stop -- >> because he tweeted nine times this morning, by the way, and he tweeted calling them fake. >> right. look, kellyanne conway talking about ...