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And said he wouldn't tolerate it. it's now 18 months later, pretty much from that moment when brian did that thing, he's not taken a stand like that ever since and there have been again for repeated provocations of a racial kind by president trump and for reasons that we have talked about ad nauseum on this show, republican leaders have basically decided that, a, it's in their somehow and weird ideological or policy interests to look the other way about all the deprivations of the president. >> john, how do you stay -- i understand staying silent on policy matters. i understand staying silent ...

>> all right. peter nicholas, wall street journal, thank you very much. absolutely fascinating interview. we greatly appreciate you being her to share all of the interesting contents with us. also, admiral stavridis, let us just say, thank you for your service, for all you have done for this country throughout your life. what you continue to do. we greatly appreciate it. let me also, i just want to say, as far as service goes, just for our viewers, benjamin had a great idea before the christmas break as the president was attacking the fbi day in and day out. he said that he thought a good thin...

A little maturity f. he shows a little bit of bipartisan leadership, you start thinking, if he goes in this direction, he can be in the mid-40s in every poll. and then the next day, he'll make a racist remark or do something that undercuts it all. why does he do that? >> as with so many things with trump, you have to venture out of the political analysis. you have to get to psychological analysis, i don't mean a weird psychological analysis. he seems to enjoy more the visceral intense reaction that his relatively small base gives him in approval when he does things like this more than he enjoy...

Country, mike pence, how do you not come out and immediately condemn this? not three days later after you talked through it. but immediately condemn this language? how do you not do that? let's focus on paul ryan and mitch mcconnell, how do they do that? >> i will say, joe, to your initial comment about this, this is the kind of thing your grandfather says when he's old and losing it in front of the television. that's true if your grandfather is a racist, it's not eb's grandfather that talks like that to the television. only those who don't like brown skinned people. >> i certainly did not mea...

Ignores the evidence that immigrants that come to america from nigeria actually have a higher education level than americans. so there you go, willie, more ignorance spewing from a president who i thought was going to spend this week trying to prove that he's fit for office and he hasn't lost a step mentally, but these bizarre rantings and ravings sound i'll say it sounds like grandpa sitting in front of the tv set when he's getting old and losing it and the sort of thing, you can't say that, grandpa, be quiet. except this guy is president of the united states and the damage it does, especiall...