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Maybe al qaeda is con -- contracting. these things go through cycles. the geographic reach is pretty worrying. >> look at their method of communication. boko haram copying or marrying a lot of what isis has been doing even their terrorism, their beheading. they started to do that just like isis was doing. boko haram has been running wild through west africa. we still have 270 school girls that everyone was wearing #bring the girls home. everyone has forgotten it apparently. no one is really paying attention. this is growing bigger in west africa. >> well i think what's happening all over the i...

Contracting. these things go through cycles. the geographic reach is pretty worrying. >> look at their method of communication. boko haram copying or marrying a lot of what isis has been doing even their terrorism, their beheading. they started to do that just like isis was doing. boko haram has been running wild through west africa. we still have 270 school girls that everyone was wearing #bring the girls home. everyone has forgotten it apparently. no one is really paying attention. this is growing bigger in west africa. >> well i think what's happening all over the islamic world is that this...

Indonesia. philippines, libya, egypt. it now marries boko haram in west africa. we have british girls going down to join syria, plus other brits. americans going. people from the caribbean going. i mean what part of this isn't like a huge wakeup call to everybody that we are in deep trouble on this? >> well clearly things are getting worse. but you have yet to hear any acknowledgment of that from the administration. i think the political significance of the afill affiliation, i will just call it now between boko haram and isis is significant. a signal to have a black african-american muslim ca...

Of the anti-defamation league center on extremism, orin segal. thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> this con found a lot of people. why the rise of hate groups? what causes this? it's not geography. what are the major factors, as you've isolated? >> the last five years, the surge in anti-government and white supremacist groups, it's probably because of the election of barack obama twice. the economy is faltering and people are angry. so when people are looking for scapegoats, they often find anti-government groups or groups that try to blame they issues on others. so that's why w...

Clear out but north carolina still getting a good deal of light rain. you notice the white on the map, the snow breaking out. i mentioned the charlotte area mixing with rain and snow. also the mountains, that's probably one of the worst forks. we're watching the storm exit and by 7:00 should be okay. there are cold conditions in the great lakes and that comes to the east coast tomorrow and it will be windy for that macy's parade. i think there will be some balloons but i doubt they'll be able to do all of them. >> we'll see how it goes. thank you so much, bill karins. well, the supreme court...