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he said he established this and first ast if he could stay on than felt he could not and they went over with the allied commander in europe and asked me to come in. i said i would not do it if it could not be done and the model designed could not working and he said i know that now. but i have to get to where i want to be and give me some slack while we've navigate over to a rational white house chief of staff systems. >> but dick cheney said surveying has chief of staff as a successor so many times president -- presidents were constrained in the congress was moving him and when he b...

you know, and when i listen to him, on the since a highly manipulative propagandist, and i know this is an unfair question that since you know a lot about these folks it seems to me those running the show, no matter what our power players and manipulating people, using a grievance being occupation or any other set of grievances to compel their followers to do things, but i think these people would try to find other mechanisms if the occupation when to grievance and so i guess the unfair question i would ask is if the occupation wasn't there what do you suspect a al-zawahiri, bin lade...