Holiday or gas cards or what have you, they are gimmicks. and the global markets don't respond to gimmicks. this is the problem with the administration. they don't have -- they are just -- it's an unserious solution to a serious problem. and they are just not taking this as it really should. >> steve: after the president said what he did after the guy from chevron wrote that letter to him saying hey, mr. president, work with us. we had to get you on to explain, you are ready to work but the president seems unserious. >> do not bet against this industry. we are always ready to work. and, again,...