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to a certain threshold and then both have kind of moved back. rachel, what do you think? now i think we're looking at a p. r. a battle for hearts and minds throughout this entire thing. and there's a lot of talk of potential false flag, false flags, could it escalate? could it deescalate conflict? i think ultimately it's just going to keep following its course and there's going to be these will incidents here and there, and nobody really, as you mentioned, peter has an interesting escalating any more. but it does allow for each party to jackie for position, and that's ultimately what...

cross sucking ukraine and propaganda. i'm joined by my guess, ryan christian in franklin. he is founder, an editor of the last american, but back upon an host of the daily wrap up in paris. we have rachel marston, she is a syndicated column. this an rti contributor. and here in moscow we have pepe escobar . he is an independent geopolitical analyst, an author specializing in eurasia, or a cross soft roles. and the fact that means you can jump in any time you want. and i would appreciate, i want to go to rachel 1st in paris. i want to get everybody's take on the, the, the downing of a...

but back up on an a host of the daily wrap up in paris. we have rachel marston, she is a syndicated column. this an rti contributor. and here in moscow we have pepe escobar . he is an independent geopolitical analyst, an author specializing in eurasia or i crossed soft roles and effect. that means you can jump in any time you want. and i would appreciate. i want to go to rachel 1st in paris. i want to get everybody's take on the, the, the downing of a drone over the black sea and the reaction, both governments, russian and american to that fact because it's very interesting that they...