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Wonders of the waffle house, and unfamiliar with its ways. the terminology, for instance, is new to me. now look, i'm looking at my hash brown and i am already confused and enticed. >> sean: here's the thing. you can't -- you can't go all in, because you want everything. >> anthony: i need to make a choice. >> sean: so there's balance, and then when you find your balance you memorize it. i go scattered, covered, smothered, chunks. >> anthony: which means, i gather, scattered on the griddle, heaped with brown onions, cheese and chunks of hickory-smoked ham. >> sean: that's my style, like i've b...

And traditional ingredients and preparations with my order, i could not resist the soft shell crabs, which are just in season. with a pasta and shaved bottarga, which frankly, i'd slit my best friend's throat for. >> glenn: wow, that looks great. >> anthony: yeah. >> glenn: that's beautiful. >> anthony: it's sweet. when you had your first forkful of proper rice is there an instinct to go out and sort of bludgeon the rest of the world into understanding what you have just come to understand. >> glenn: i did not run up and down the streets of charleston. it was tough to dislodge people here so i...

These are the red peas that came from west africa. this is the original carolina gold rice, hand-harvested. grilled whiting, which is what nobody eats in charleston in restaurants. it's what everybody eats in homes with some spring vegetables. and then this is suckling pig. that's the same breed, ossabaw, as we had earlier with the ham, mixed with a mule foot cooked on a spit. some creamed corn and cornbread. >> anthony: wow. >> bill: well, this is going to be my first mule foot. >> sean: this is like my favorite way to eat, you know? just family style, just pass stuff around. >> anthony: oh y...

>> anthony: you're talking about like ronald mcdonald. "he had a good idea." no, you're wrong. i'm sorry. here's where we part ways, my friend. here's my sauce. after a few bites of waffle, a burger, a hunk of generic t-bone and some hash browns, one feels drawn right to the center of what makes our country great. an america " -- yeah" moment that drives me to clamber up on the counter and start reciting walt whitman, "the star-spangled banner," "oh say can you see," and you know what, i doubt i'd be the first. oh my god. >> sean: give me a break. >> anthony: the umami happening here. >> sean:...

It's a pressing matter to redefine southern food. if i were a southerner, i would, i would make it a personal mission because it was distorted for so long. but as a northerner, why should northerners care? >> sean: well, i think if you look at the history of food in america there's no denying that southern food was the first, you know, true cuisine that had this foundation and that's important to preserve. and, to me, though, it kind of goes back to the idea you should be cooking and preserving and celebrating the food of your grandmother. >> bill: people take a real pride in their ability to ...