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MSNBC Morning Joe September 15, 2021 10:07:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Morning Joe September 15, 2021 10:07:00

Right now. it didn't deviate much, if you wanted to zoom in and find where anything was different in the central valley, the san joaquin valley, it's probably where the recall did best. then you look in the bay area, garn newsom used to be the mayor of san francisco. the recall might be doing worse in some of those counties than donald trump did in 2020. we're talking about differences of a couple of points. this matches on perfectly from what you saw last november when jooid won the state by 29 points -- joe biden won by 29 points. hillary clinton the first democrat to win by 2 points, biden ...

MSNBC Morning Joe September 15, 2021 10:08:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Morning Joe September 15, 2021 10:08:00

What's been changing and shifting in orange county stayed changing and stayed shifting in this recall election. >> what about those congressional districts that democrats barely won in 2018 that helped nancy pelosi become speaker. there's still those swing districts out there in 2020 and now again in 2022. is it too early to tell if there was much of a difference in those areas that may determine who's going to be the next speaker of the house? >> orange county, there's a couple in orange county. i'll call it up again. i don't mean to fixate too much on this one county. but 2018 the democrats ...

MSNBC Morning Joe September 15, 2021 10:15:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Morning Joe September 15, 2021 10:15:00

Biden's numbers down, again, the fact that when people went to polls and this sort of race, and the fact that democrats held their own, i would mark that down as a really big win were i a democrat trying to plan ahead for 2022. and i also want to look at some of the things that drove the election newsom's way, and let's see on that point, let's talk about the exit poll and covid. my theory of the case has been run over the 33% politically, run over the 30% politically like republicans did in texas on the abortion law, running over the 70%, actually. if you're gavin newsom, and you want to win ...

MSNBC Morning Joe September 15, 2021 10:13:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Morning Joe September 15, 2021 10:13:00

Ground. i'm going to get back to steve and ask him about exit polls, the fact that a recall is a negative proposition to begin with. most politicians are going to fare worse than they would in -- here we have an off, off year election in september when kids are going back to school. this is a race that is set up for a surprise like we saw in 2009, when the race for ted kennedy's replacement shocked the world and went republican. if i'm a democrat and looking at this map, and it's basically an overlay of the 2020 election, a presidential year election where

MSNBC Morning Joe September 15, 2021 10:10:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Morning Joe September 15, 2021 10:10:00

Newsom were concerned. there's a reason that elizabeth harris, and bernie sanders, and was it the emergence of larry elder whose views were so extreme, what did these votes hinge on? >> we're talking about how similar to this basic break down, the red/blue map in the presidential race. the map you would expect in just about any california election these days. i think three things to say, number one, the polling that was out there over the summer when there started to be rumblings of hey, is something happening here, it caught my interest, caught everybody's interest. we didn't have a ton of it...