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Trump. so i think the most important thing for all of these candidates now is it is for elizabeth warren to make the case she could beat trump on that message if that is her message. she has to not just convince voters in iowa but not only could i win on this message in this state, i could win on this message in a general election. i think that's a nature of the conversation that you're going to see between the candidates in the next several months. >> and i guess the question for you from pennsylvania, do you think -- i know you think that joe biden theoretically is a stronger candidate but i...

Issues -- climate change is an important issue, i guess. but it doesn't resonate with voters. i hate to break it to everyone. people are horribly offended by those comments. through the prism of wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan, is the issue of seeking higher ground because of flooding the issue that's going to win and election? there's the other thing, who votes in primary elections? another unpopular comment to i make his people who are 25 younger unfortunately don't really turn out in primary elections. >> laura: theyn think they have a turn on machine though. they think they have a tur...

It doesn't resonate with voters. i hate to break it to everyone and if you are horribly offended by those comments, but again through the prism of wisconsin pennsylvania, and michigan, it's the issue of seeking higher ground because of flooding, the issue that's going to win the election. who votes in primary elections? another unpopular comments to make is that people who are 25 or younger unfortunately do not really turn out in primary elections. >> laura: they think they have a turnout machine. >> they think they have. but it's a primary election. >> laura: byron, i'm going to play what cas...

It doesn't resonate with voters. i hate to break it to everyone and if you are horribly offended by those comments, but again, through the prism of wisconsin, pennsylvania, and michigan, it's the issue of seeking higher ground because of flooding, the issue that's going to win make the election. who votes in primary elections? another unpopular comments to make is that people who are 25 or younger unfortunately do not really turn out in primary elections. >> laura: they think they have a turnout machine. >> they think they have. but it's a primary election. >> laura: byron, i'm going to play w...

Incentive. i don't think the president is a shoe-in for reelection. this is going to be a tough fight. the enthusiasm factor and what we started talking about the president and people are clearly fired up. we have to remember theid president's opponents are fired up as well. the election and the security. usually 85 million show at mid tell. you have over 110 million people vote. we're going to shatter the records. >> i completely agree. it is going to be all about turnout. and that rally was incredibly oppressive like all trump rallies are. they can't turn that number out. on election day as ...