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Democrat and he won. look, i don't think the president is a shoe in for reelection. this will be a 50-50 race. the enthusiasm factor is huge. the president's people are fired up. the president's opponents are fired up just as well. the 2018 election, usually 85 million people. you had over 110-million people vote. we will shatter records in 2020. >> laura: i agree. it will be all about turnout. that rally was impressive like all of trump's rallies are. democrats can't turn that number out. on election day and the roll up to election day, because we have early voting, there will be a massive pu...

Seem to be with people younger than 45 years old. walk us through the numbers a little bit. >> i think this is really key. we see sanders giving biden a run for his money among independents, but it's this youth category that i think if i were in the biden camp, i would be like oh, we need to pay attention to this a bit more. look here. under 45, sanders is actually beating him there. 26% to 19%. obviously biden is dominating older than 45. that's one of his best categories. that under 45 crowd is critical if they become a turnout machine. if we see increase in the younger vote turnout, that di...

Hillary clinton is very likely to win this election. donald trump found people who we didn't necessarily -- weren't polling, didn't expect to vote. they turned out. the question is, is donald trump also, particularly as a president, a really good turnout machine for democrats. is the level of vitriol directed at him -- i've never seen like this in polling. his unfavorable rating is let's say 59%. his strongly unfavorable rating is a 55%. you either like him or hate him and typically in politics that kind of -- i don't want to say anger, but anger, distaste, drives and in a midterm election the...

36%. it was the lowest since 1940 something in 2014. to paul's point, it would suggest that 20 million early votes is way up in every state that has early voting. donald trump said, i've never seen crowds like this. he may be right. the question is donald trump can drive his people out. i think we saw that in 2016. we learned that lesson. i will admit, i was in the hillary clinton is very likely to win this election based on everything we know. donald trump found people who we didn't -- necessarily weren't polling, they turned out. the question is, is donald trump also particularly as a presid...

In any of the other states, that's the culinary -- >> that was maria's point. there's no unions in texas and georgia the way there is here. >> the kuculinary union is the latino turnout machine. they've registered many of those members. if the culinary union does its job, then heller and the governor's race have a lot to worry about. >> that's the interesting this evening when you mention spanish language ads. that's something i hear over and over again. that is not enough to maria's point, too. look at stacey abrams who made a concerted effort to push white working class voters to the wayside...