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On trump. Im howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. The debate will be hosted by bret baier and Martha Maccallum. I spoke to the anchor of the story from new york. Martha maccallum, welcome. Hi, howie, good to be with you. Howie i havent seen a build up like this for a first debate at the beginning of a campaign since that 2015 Fox Debate With Political Newcomer donald trump. I turned to the other channels i see fox debate. What are people saying . Why do you think that is . I think theres a lot of enthusiasm. I think people are much more politically engaged and probably since that 2015 debate an...

Thing is a perfect example of this. there's extreme sensitivity around trump, these guardrails have been created so if you say listless vessels everyone freaks out but trump can say desantis was grooming teenage girls when he was a teacher, he might be gay, even worst stuff out there and no one bats an eye lash. howie: yeah, well, it is a dilemma, just one second, it is a dilemma but at the same time, if you never criticized the guy, people will say well why don't i just pick trump so the memo also says, you'll love this , a former political person, tell an anecdote about your family, show emo...