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Precedent because i haven't really, you know, looked into that, but if he does release the entire thing unredacted, to be frank, that will be the evidence. either something will be there or there won't be something there. it's interesting to know what speaker pelosi will do before or after seeing that unredacted as we're told from the white house. unredacted transcript. i think everybody will be waiting to look at that. you heard chairman of the intelligence committee adam schiff saying the whistle-blower wants to talk to congress. there's a lot of openness that is being demanded right now. fo...

Is no -- if it is benign. if you don't through this transcript see that the president says said i'm withholding x many millions of dollars if you don't do x, y, z for me, legally speaking is that still election interference? >> yes. that's not all there was. we know rudy giuliani was involved, went over there. other conversations and other things goinging on. that is one piece of the puzzle. we really need to see the whistle-blower complaint. that was deemed credible and urgent and had more information than that one call. speaking of the whistle-blower, dana bash, adam schiff tweeted news. wha...

Summit tomorrow. the question coming out of that will be whether or not seeing that transcript is enough for these democrats especially the ones who changed their calls in recent days from not pushing for impeachment to what you've seen from them saying they're going to need to see this complaint from this whistle-blower as they are going forward and whether or not it's going to be enough is a whole other question. from what nancy pelosi said there, not being an explicit agreement between president trump and the ukrainian president about that aid and investigation into joe biden won't be enoug...

We are not getting beyond the story until three things happen. transcript of july 25 phone call. copy of the complaint. that's still in doubt. and we will meet the whistle-blower. i'm not surprised at all. we're going to need all of this. why throw up the hurdles if you're on the white house side of this? because sooner or later we're going to get the information. there's something else going on. you look at the "times" or the "post" today, ten people share the byline on the "new york times" lead story. "washington post," seven reporters. cnn has its own team assigned to this. there are report...

Will demand are transcripts of the president's calls with other world leaders, and potentially including the russian president vladimir putin. whether or not that happens, something we'll watch, but we are going to be able to read the transcript of the last known call between president trump and the ukrainian president starting tomorrow. he says that. >> kaitlan, thank you very much on the president's tweet saying he'll put the transcript out there. michael smerconish. your reaction to that. a., do you trust that it will be an undoctored cryp eed transcri b. what if the transcript is benign? n...