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Had already stopped the Trip Planning by that point. And when did that happen . Stopping the Trip Planning . Yeah. On may 13th. Okay. And how did you hear about that . I was called by a colleague in the the Vice President s chief of staffs office and told to stop the Trip Planning. Okay. And as i understand it, it was the assistant to the chief of staff . Thats correct. Okay. And so you didnt hear about it from general kellogg or the chief of staff or the president or the Vice President , you heard about it from mr. Shorts assistant . Thats right. And did you have any knowledge of the reasonin...

Had already stopped the trip planning by that point. >> and when did that happen? >> stopping the trip planning? >> yeah. >> on may 13th. >> okay. and how did you hear about that? >> i was called by a colleague in the -- the vice president's chief of staff's office and told to stop the trip planning. >> okay. and as i understand it, it was the assistant to the chief of staff? >> that's correct. >> okay. and so you didn't hear about it from general kellogg or the chief of staff or the president or the vice president, you heard about it from mr. short's assistant? >> that's right. and did you ha...