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She doesn't want to hear him bring up her son he needs to cut it out right now. >> perhaps this will be the last word on that. >> i think so. >> ruth marcus, thank you. >> chris cizilla, thank you. up next biden versus ryan what's at stake in tomorrow's bluegrass debate. join us tomorrow live in danville, kentucky, for the vice presidential debate. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. these fellas used capital one venture miles for a golf getaway. double miles you can actually use... but mr. single miles can't join his friends because he's getting hit with blackouts. shame ...

It is a combination argument, considering that both ryan and obama post the same dollar amount of cuts. the difference is that obama's cuts are used to be thrown back into medicare, versus ryan cuts are basically so they can support tax cuts. so i think that when we get down to the debates or somewhere where he is actually challenged on this, it's going to be a little bit harder for him to make this argument. jon: angela, he has not backed away. various outlets have pointed out that same thing. the ryan budget also proposed cuts in medicare. how does the answer that? >> he answered and talked ...

>> well, first, i say it's still very early. paul ryan only picked a few days ago. give it a little more time. there will be more demagoguing, more ads, and i would, i mean more interested to see where this is in a month in terms of where people are. i think it's going to be an interesting debate. what the democrats say on the $700 billion cuts that obama did is it goes back in the system. versus ryan, which is a cut. the other thing is ryan when he says he wants to repeal affordable care act, he says except for the, done with medicare, doughnut hole and those things. >> bret: first of all, i ...

Shifting. at least ryan put forth a document and laid out his values. the president has to do çthat. i trust bill daily and others in the white house understand that. everybody has to sacrifice more and most americans say, i'm sacrificing as long as rich people are fact sizing. >> what harold ford junior is saying may be a sneaked peak into the balanced vision. the "new york times," that goes too far, too, there is something more relevant, is there not? >> and more relevant the gang of six, six senators led by dick durbin and tom coburn trying to find a solution that does involve a truly bal...