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Conspiracy. i think there is still some evidence that needs to be developed on that front. obviously obstructing an official proceeding. the electoral college count. the vote certification. he was unlawfully pressuring a high government official, mike pence, urging him to violate the law. so, and mike pence, jonathan, he can close the door on testifying to the january 6th committee and he can close the door on a voluntary interview with federal prosecutors. federal prosecutors can't compel him to come in for a voluntary injury. you know what he can't close the door on, a federal grand jury sub...

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Trump leaned hard on pens on the vote certification and that led to conspiracy to defraud the united states and impeding an investigation and i think this is encouraging news that trump will be brought to justice. >> joining me on the stone carol linney. thanks so much for joining us tonight with this breaking news. >> i have to ask you. you know, you'll have the people, the merrick garland supporters, a-ha, we told you all along. this is what happened. the other side is saying, hey, this might be a result of pressure from congress and the january 6th committee and the commentators and everyth...

January 20th. it was relentless. they didn't give up on january 6th, just because they were unsuccessful in obstructing the vote certification, until, joe biden seems to take this oath of office. this is going to thwart that election, and that is part of the story. it is the singular focus, on the january 6th attack. i think, in some ways, it is distraction, it is a sideshow, for this much larger conspiracy to overthrow the election. it began before the election, in the proceeding, if i looms, the only way i lose is because it will be rigged, and vote by mail is fraudulent. all things he did, ...

After american voters decided, they didn't want that. and, also, after violence has taken place, on january 6th. marjorie taylor greene, her text was on january 17th. how should we process this, given the fact that it is so unprecedented? >> that is so interesting. if you look at the indictments filed by the justice department, against this plot, they see it didn't end on january six, is just one episode. the plot is going down on january 20th. it was relentless. they didn't give up on january 6th, just because they were unsuccessful in obstructing the vote certification, until, joe biden seem...