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Prosecute. it's rarely used. but if there was ever a time to use it, i mean, just looking at the statutory language itself here, two or more people conspiring to prevent, delay the execution of the laws. seems pretty spot on for this. >> yes, by force. and that's exactly what they allege in the indictment. that by force, two or more people, in this case multiple people of these oath keepers, stormed the capitol in order to prevent, hinder, delay the execution of the laws. that is, the peaceful transfer of power, the certification of the election. it is spot on as to what the statute provides, ...

Alleged that trump very serious blame. not just from the statement you said before, but judge mehta, said that he was only the person who suggested marching to the capitol while the vote certification was underway. this is kind of a compendium of serious problems, and serious actions that donald trump took on that day and the days before it. so i think it's really serious, and trump has a lot to worry about. >> what's interesting about the decision, right, is there is a high bar here to get over. there's a high threshold. and he says that giuliani, don jr., they don't get over it. and it's bec...

For him legally in the last week? >> it's a triad of losses. they're all significant. but it's not just that he's facing them, but that he's lost them. starting with the judge's decision in d.c. 100-plus page opinion by a really respected federal judge saying trump very well may have plausibly led to the january 6th attack on the capitol. he isolated out trump's statements, saying he was the only official to suggest marching to the capitol while the vote certification was under way, and the like. i think that looks like a real clear and present danger to donald trump. >> let's talk a little bi...

Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) is accusing Democrats of overblowing the severity of the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 and using the incident as a power grab. 

Fanciful. but that misses the point completely. the fact is, the attempt in 2020 was completely slap dash. there was the riot, there was the pressure on the legislators to ask mike pence to fail to certify the election, so on. the whole thing was thrown together in a series of weeks. this, what we're seeing now, is much more methodical. with two-thirds of the republican party believing the election was stolen, and therefore steps must be taken to rectify that in the form of removing secretaries of state who didn't -- who don't accept the big lie. giving more power to republican state legislatu...