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Legal semantics and not take military action when necessary. as president trump did when he killed soleimani in iraq. iran's mastermind. >> dana: it was debated during the obama administration with similar outcomes. >> bill: back to the voting issue. a lot of heat in the filibuster focus. as he rightly points out no republican behind mitch mcconnell has gotten behind the voting bill. >> dana: a "new york times" guy tweeted the manchin plan resembles the georgia system. if stacey abrams is no longer jim crow 2 and states have done this why do you need a national bill? >> you raise a great point...

>> gillian: they're having major success pushing back on school boards and launching class action lawsuits when they feel the schools aren't listening to them hearing their complaints. you guys are fighting the same fights here in new york city in some of the private schools it sounds like. >> bill: what is interesting about that. irony of ironies new york city parents who you would assume would be extremely liberal and welcome this type of teaching in the classrooms are the ones who put a national spotlight on it. you think about the letter written six months ago and how many people picked up...

Candidates -- >> no, i didn't say anything about -- >> i'm saying if you do not, if you do not see this plan that is credible to make this, you know, the priority it needs to be, would you rule out jumping into the race as a candidate? >> jim, every single democrat has a plan and every single democrat has a plan that would be far more effective than what is happening today. there isn't one democrat who hasn't put forward plans on climate change so i'm not -- i didn't say anything about the democratic candidates. what i was saying was it has to be much more on the minds of all americans which i...

Much we'll look toward settling this at the ballot box in november. >> do you think that's the case? >> i think that's right. more phases to this in the house. reports that will go over to the judiciary committee. the things you're talking about. whether the public understands this. whether or not a clear martive was set forth. maybe the house judiciary can get to. no more depositions some transcripts will be released possibly from the depositions that happened. i think the case had compelling moments. the fact impeachment is number ten on the list. in some ways suggests it probably not a voti...

>> i think that's right. i think america is a partisan and very divided place. and i'm not sure bringing on a woman or explaining it in keeping it short and making it longer. i'm not sure it makes a difference. a lot of this stuff is baked in. people are in their corners. the democrats moved part of the public along. it's 5050 in terms of where people are. that was before they put on a trial. it seems like it's essentially stayed that way. i don't know if individual voters are thinking about who they vote for based on whether or not they voted for impeachment. that's the point i was making. we...