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presidential election? dick morris is here. but first, it is not only governor scott walker's job at stake, lieutenant governor is also fighting to keep her seat. the lieutenant governor faces a democratic challenge malin mitchell in the recall. he is head of the firefighter's union. we spoke to her about the recall battle. nice to talk to you. >> hi, greta. >> greta: is it fair to say, lieutenant governor, but for the collective barg ang spat -- i can't think of a better way to describe it -- that there would be no recall -- is that your understanding that this is the reason you are...

telling what the church to do. >> but this just isn't about keeping the state out of the church. it's also about keeping the church out of the state. president john f. kennedy understood this. >> the constitution is very clear in the separation of church and state. and i have been very clear and precise in my commitments to that constitution. >> president ronald reagan understood this, too. >> there is no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. church and state are and must remain separate. >> the founding fathers understood it, too. i...

keeping the state out of the church. it's also about keeping the church out of the state. president john f. kennedy understood this. >> the constitution is very clear in the separation of church and state. and i have been very clear and precise in my commitments to that constitution. >> president ronald reagan understood this, too. >> there is no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. church and state are and must remain separate. >> the founding fathers understood it, too. in 1802, thomas jefferson wrote that the first amendment was,...