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cutting board with three carving knives with blood on them. >> some of his remains were in the freezer. and aaron led police to the rest. in a suit case inside a dumpster a couple of miles away. >> he was in a 1990 brown honda accord with aaron who subsequently brought the boy to his apartment, killed him there and then dismembered the body. >> after his arrest he told police he was "sorry for the hurt he caused." >> a former nypd major case detective. gill, what is the latest on this case? >> well, right now they are testing him to see if he is psychologically fit to go to court and his next court date is july 28. right now he is in bellevue hospital. in between bellevue and
wouldn't someone just call 911. you you never explain that to the jury. >> well, and, of course, it wasn't our burden to explain anything to the jury. and i don't -- you know, like i said, i don't have the answer that you are looking for. i think the grief specialist that was called and presented by the defense at least shed some light on the fact that some people don't react the way we would expect them to when faced with this type of catastrophe. and i can only attribute casey's behavior to that. >> judge jeanine: and you know, ann, when you talk about this grief expert and obviously the prosecution and they were on this show, said the grief expert basically said that any behavior is consistent with someone who is grieving, whether you are happy or sad, can't get out of bed, do get
the report and i have seen these reports, very well done but you and your organization that i have tremendous respect for. but she is saying she was where the body was little caylee was found and there was no smell, no body, no water a few months before and implication is that someone from the defense team coached her. what can you tell us about this volunteer on texas equisearch? >> i'm hearing the same thing. that is part of the police investigation. where it goes and her name is laura buchanan and when she came down from i believe it was tennessee she said that she was with law enforcement and she came down to help and but i know that she was e-mailing mark nejames my attorney in florida prior to coming down seeing how she could contact the anthonys. and it was real strange that she went to jose baez with this paperwork. and she definitely -- no question. >> judge jeanine: you are
wouldn't someone just call 911. you you never explain that to the jury. >> well, and, of course, it wasn't our burden to explain anything to the jury. and i don't -- you know, like i said, i don't have the answer that you are looking for. i think the grief specialist that was called and presented by the defense at least shed some light on the fact that some people don't react the way we would expect them to when faced with this type of catastrophe. and i can only attribute casey's behavior to that. >> judge jeanine: and you know, ann, when you talk about this grief expert and obviously the prosecution and they were on this show, said the grief expert basically said that any behavior is consistent with someone who is grieving, whether you are happy or sad, can't get out of bed, do get
casey? >> judge jeanine: so what does she think really happened to caylee? ann is a member of the casey anthony defense team and a death penalty specialist. can you tell us what really happened to little caylee? >> no, i can't. i don't think anybody can. i think that obviously casey anthony chose not to testify in the case and that is a story for her to tell. certainly the evidence suggests the facts of the case suggest that casey was in jail for most of the time subsequent to july 15. so, assumeing that the body wasn't there in the woods on july 15 certainly other persons were likely to be involved. >> judge jeanine: okay. and by other persons, the defense team has done everything, thrown the book at george anthony and accused him of child molestation and framing his daughter for a
cutting board with three carving knives with blood on them. >> some of his remains were in the freezer. and aaron led police to the rest. in a suit case inside a dumpster a couple of miles away. >> he was in a 1990 brown honda accord with aaron who subsequently brought the boy to his apartment, killed him there and then dismembered the body. >> after his arrest he told police he was "sorry for the hurt he caused." >> a former nypd major case detective. gill, what is the latest on this case? >> well, right now they are testing him to see if he is psychologically fit to go to court and his next court date is july 28. right now he is in bellevue hospital. in between bellevue and
>> judge jeanine: so what does she think really happened to caylee? ann is a member of the casey anthony defense team and a death penalty specialist. can you tell us what really happened to little caylee? >> no, i can't. i don't think anybody can. i think that obviously casey anthony chose not to testify in the case and that is a story for her to tell. certainly the evidence suggests the facts of the case suggest that casey was in jail for most of the time subsequent to july 15. so, assumeing that the body wasn't there in the woods on july 15 certainly other persons were likely to be involved. >> judge jeanine: okay. and by other persons, the defense team has done everything, thrown the book at george anthony and accused him of child molestation and framing his daughter for a
murder that really was an accident. is he the one who was supposedly in possession of the body? is that what the defense said? >> i don't think the defense really said anything. there was no evidence presented at this trial. and obviously the jury was instructed that anything mr. baez said in the opening statement was not evidence and should not be considered as such. i think the jury had obviously george anthony to look at. they had mr. cronk to look at. any number of people to look at whose behavior was odd. i don't think the jury knew. i think one of the reasons the jury came back with a verdict of not guilty was that they couldn't figure out what happened after listening to a month of testimony. >> judge jeanine: and there is no question and that is to the defense team's credit. i was in that courtroom most every day. is that the defense said this was a drowning. if it were a drowning, that is what jose baez said, why
murder that really was an accident. is he the one who was supposedly in possession of the body? is that what the defense said? >> i don't think the defense really said anything. there was no evidence presented at this trial. and obviously the jury was instructed that anything mr. baez said in the opening statement was not evidence and should not be considered as such. i think the jury had obviously george anthony to look at. they had mr. cronk to look at. any number of people to look at whose behavior was odd. i don't think the jury knew. i think one of the reasons the jury came back with a verdict of not guilty was that they couldn't figure out what happened after listening to a month of testimony. >> judge jeanine: and there is no question and that is to the defense team's credit. i was in that courtroom most every day. is that the defense said this was a drowning. if it were a drowning, that is what jose baez said, why
murder that really was an accident. is he the one who was supposedly in possession of the body? is that what the defense said? >> i don't think the defense really said anything. there was no evidence presented at this trial. and obviously the jury was instructed that anything mr. baez said in the opening statement was not evidence and should not be considered as such. i think the jury had obviously george anthony to look at. they had mr. cronk to look at. any number of people to look at whose behavior was odd. i don't think the jury knew. i think one of the reasons the jury came back with a verdict of not guilty was that they i'm mavs in new york -- i'm marianne rafferty. fox news is now confirming that casey anthony was escorted out of the orange county jail in