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that he testified on friday in front of a d.c. grand jury. the new york times in the wall street journal reporting that -- general counsel has also testified. and what we are hearing, from the january 6th, now maybe an even bigger deal. even more damning. and what they showed us last week. and their final hearing until september. you remember the shortest then president of the united states, donald trump, the day after supporters attacked the capitol. hunted lawmakers in the halls. beat police within an inch of their lives. the day after all of that. they showed us how he absolutely ...

this is on them tonight that we have a lot that we are learning. to top aides to the vice president testified in the doj's criminal investigation on january 6th. and the efforts to overturn our free and fair election. marc short who was chief of staff to then vice president mike pence confirming to cnn that he testified on friday in front of a d.c. grand jury. the new york times in the wall street journal reporting that greg jacobs's general counsel has also testified. and what we are hearing from the january six committee. now maybe an even bigger deal. even more damning. then what ...

That you have people who are elected officials, who are also supposed to set aside, and it just doesn't make sense. it's this weird gray area. >> you shouldn't drop the hammer on people, it's harder to drop the hammer on people if you're holding a fund-raiser for the person subpoenaing you. >> taken to the extreme, does that mean that only endeavor kratz can investigate democrats, or vice versa? i just don't know how you get this to be workable when you have elected officials as prosecutors. i will say this, don, i'd say the judge almost gave her dinner favor by getting her off the case, becau...

During protests in that kind of thing, people who are in charge of investigations should hold themselves to a different awful. >> yeah, however done, the overwhelming majority of district attorneys across the states, i like to say is up above 90%, are elected in partisan elections. it's the norm in america that you have people who are elected officials, who are also supposed to set aside. it's this weird gray area. >> i'm not saying you should drop the hammer on people. it started to drop the hammer of people if you are holding a fund-raiser for the presence of ponies >> taking to the extreme,...

>> so the impeachment, it appears to be something of a stalemate right now, both sides absolutely dug into their positions. but are we any closer to getting answers about the timing and the big picture scope of the senate proceedings? >> i haven't seen anything clear on that, to be honest. but i do expect that it will move. i think we're sort of in this weird gray area where people are trying to hold out their positions and that's causing a lot of confusion. you know, there's this sort of talk, which i honestly think is not going to go anywhere about, you know, withholding the articles and not...