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>> reporter: i think so. and it came by tweet, chuck. >> of course it did. >> reporter: and it is worth noting that look, the chief of staff announcement seemed to be a little more orderly, so we're going to try to get the back story on this, at what point was this decision made. >> you mean by orderly when four people turn down the job before they found somebody, yes. that's one form of orderly. kristin, you have to go back, crash for the 17,000 pieces of breaking news from the oval office. i have courtney cuby on the phone, national security reporter, very much traveled with secretary mattis...

Here or coming up here, going through the airports, it never fails that someone asks about that. but that's not something that this moment, as you and i are talking, that i'm focused on. at some point, maybe. >> do you think that president trump should be primaried? >> i do think that we've got to remember what the republican party is. >> that's not a yes or no answer. >> so i don't know that -- i want to get away from here and think about it. this isn't an everyday in the hallway question. i want to get away from here and think about that. what is happening right now is not the standard repub...

I mean, he's proven again and again that this is his party more than any other. in the midterms, that proves that. but i do think the wider electorate. there is signs of people, you know, sort of having enough. of sort of the obfusication and the lies that he has. and so i think there is room to maneuver for mueller as he continues the investigation. >> and i think that's the question. it's about the lies. everyone keeps showing that clip of president trump on air force one talking about michael cohen because, it is one of the clearest versions of, okay, this is a story that changed. so does t...

Consternation among, you know, for the president and those closest to him. how does he, the president navigate that? >> it's going to be difficult. because it's going to -- we've seen in the past, the president, when someone who is close to his orbit, while they're in his orbit, he defends them. and, you know, tries his best to denounce the investigation and the minute they get caught up, they plead guilty, they start cooperating, then he's never heard of them before, right? they played minor roles in his campaign. they were just a coffee boy. >> michael who? >> you can't really do that. >> st...

Every platform. and there's no reason to believe that it's been completely stocked, even at this point. so it will continue on. i'm really interested, not just to see this report come out, but what the senate committee recommends done in response to this. >> so for the table, the political implications here of what clint just laid out. i mean, is there a point where the people who have been trump's staunchest supporters become concerned that he had all of this help from russia? or do we just simply never get there? >> i don't think we ever get there. i think they would dismiss the idea that th...