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january six committee. and i just think it's a risk. because what if he loses? what is he supposed to say? the supreme court are bunch of traders? these are the people he appointed. >> of course, [laughs] , of course that's exactly what you do. john, listen, tara really just said how i feel. is it because it's such a small carve out here, right? is it -- our he and his attorneys pointing to this one little thing that they could win, so they at least can say that they have a win, even though it is -- it seems incremental, or, you know, it does not really matter that much? you get my p...

supreme court has ruled against him so many times when it comes to disclosing his public information, including to january six committee. and i just think it's a risk. because what if he loses? what is he supposed to say? the supreme court are bunch of traders? these are the people he appointed. >> of course, [laughs] , of course that's exactly what you do. john, listen, tara really just said how i feel. is it because it's such a small carve out here, right? is it -- our he and his attorneys pointing to this one little thing that they could win, so they at least can say that they hav...

So this was obviously long before january six. so it's in this planning a meeting with his oath keeper group. here's what he says. we are not getting out of this without a fight. there is going to be a fight. but let's do it smart. and let's do it while president trump is still commander in chief. now he wasn't the only person that recorded sort of talking about sort of finding in terms of being mad. that president trump had lost the election and that joe biden was going to take the presidency. we also heard from two other defendants, one was jessica watkins, who posture says always trying to ...

About sort of fighting in terms of being mad. that president trump had lost the election and that joe biden was going to take the presidency. we also heard from two other defendants, one was jessica watkins, who posture says always trying to fit it as a transgender person that she was trying to put into this group. and kelly meggs, both of whom are seen in side of the capitol, unlike roads, who only seen outside the capital. there was recording them discussing weapons and whether or not what weapons are legal to bring into the district of columbia. which has a very strict laws about bringing i...

They see -- they see big deficits. this is an opportunity to rail against deficits and, of course, what you must do, therefore, is cut social security benefits 20 years for now for some reason to deal with the current deficit and that's -- that's a big part of it, and that influences the debate, but other thing is there are a lot of people in d.c. who posture whose persona is that of being serious, and you show that you're serious by willing to impose suffering, by being willing to impose cuts. the idea that actually the serious thing to do right now is to spend is very, very against that pers...