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in a surprise hearing this week, cassidy hutchinson, the former trump aide to chief of staff mark meadows, delivered to our stunning testimony to the january six committee. hutchinson took us inside the white house in the days leading up to and on january the six. as trump and his inner circle carried out their campaign to overturn our election. hutchison testified that repeated warnings of violence on that day were simply ignored by trump and other white house officials, including her boss. >> was it your understanding that mr. ornado told the president about weapons at the rally on...

In a surprise hearing this week, cassidy hutchinson, the former trump aide to chief of staff mark meadows, delivered to our stunning testimony to the january six committee. hutchinson took us inside the white house in the days leading up to and on january the six. as trump and his inner circle carried out their campaign to overturn our election. hutchison testified that repeated warnings of violence on that day were simply ignored by trump and other white house officials, including her boss. >> was it your understanding that mr. ornado told the president about weapons at the rally on the morni...

It is so fundamental to our justice. i would say, for me, i would have 1 million questions, but one of my million questions is who is this intermediary there called for mark meadows? who is that person, let's get that person before a grand jury, let's get moving. but i would say mark meadows has a host of problems, the least of which is us finding us -- that he asked for a pardon. it is more likely that he may be looking at a witness tampering grand jury. he may be looking at that through 71 conspiracy to obstruct the election and counting on the votes. >> glenn, to cynthia's point, what do yo...

The effect of, you heard it path, he thinks mike deserves it, he does not think they are doing anything wrong. >> doesn't think they are doing anything wrong. one person had some idea of how wrong everything was. mark meadows. hutchinson revealed that her boss asked for a pardon following the events of january six. meadows has since denied asking for the pardon, but we should make this important note, cassidy hutchinson testified to that under oath. mark meadows has not. let's discuss this with cynthia alksne, a former federal prosecutor in the civil rights division of the justice department a...

An arrest warrant. you present it to a federal judge, and you look up the person or people who are tampering with witnesses because that is interfering with the integrity of this investigation. that is what the fbi should be doing right now. >> cynthia, what about mark meadows and all this, what is his possible legal exposure post hutchinson testimony. mark meadows at this point should just be taking the fifth amendment. mark meadows has a huge problem. because the committee knows who is supposedly this intermediary, who mark meadows had called her and witness tempered. there's any way that th...