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But these talks were at a complete stand still and this historic move by president trump gets everybody to at least come back to the table and talk? >> that's exactly right, dana. the talks had been stalled since february of this year. and there had been little life within those talks despite the very credible and serious efforts put forth by the special envoy for north korea and his team. you saw him just there in the clip behind the president. so the president did, with this move, restart talks, but what this does is masks an under lying challenge, which is that there's lack of real progress...

What he put on the table the last time and it is a step in the right direction, done at the working level, it's likely we would make some accommodations to him on sanctions and not have him going home again without that. secondly, i don't think we will see a summit between the two leaders unless there is something on the table that both working groups can agree to and define that as progress in terms of mutual interest. >> martha: he holds close his nuclear weapons plan. it's a security blanket for him within his own country. it appears that president trump is trying to convince him he has the...

And so progress stalled after the meeting in hanoi a couple of months ago. and the president -- and north korea simply fell off the map. working level meetings were not able to take place. there were rumors that north korean officials involved in those meetings had been executed by kim. and for the president, he is greatly invested in progress, continuing with north korea. that's why you saw him wanting to have this meeting with kim. the president was the one who issued the invitation. and this was a classic trump foreign policy move. where he does the personal meeting, and the meeting itself ...

Their relationship is the one pushing this forward at this point. without the working level talks, this denuclearization process is going to go nowhere. it was notable that president trump didn't mentioned word denuclearization the whole afternoon. potentially he mentioned it behind closed doors. it was more talking about what an honor this was, stepping over the mdl, he described as an honor. kim jong-un said it was courageous and erpld did. there was a lot of flattery on both sides. one interesting thing i wanted to mention as we heard from kim jong-un, as he was leaving --. >> we lost paula...

Denuclearization, if you can't trust your own people to talk to your counterpart, how does this move forward? >> right. and they have a lot of work ahead of them to prepare for a third summit. now i really don't think we can afford them to have -- i don't think they can afford to have a third summit without the proper work in place. that means really getting down to discussing even if it's scenarios on a possible deal and compromising bargain on the way forward. without that, if the two leaders meet again without putting in the work at the working level nks it's going to be hanoi all over agai...