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this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. today on the program, the first lady of ukraine. i talk to olena zelenska about that frequently forgotten side of war, the human toll. how are ukrainians dealing with the destruction of their cities and towns? how are they fighting winter's cold as the country struggles to pump out heat? and can they ever return to life as normal? also, brazil's january 8th and its stunning similarities to america's january 6th. we dig into the attack on the capitol of brazi...

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Have come in lean to the left, but i think that misses the point. this is not a new pink tide that we have seen before. this is really an anti-incumbent fury of a populist that is tired of the political pclass. the political class is discredited across the region, and across the world, i suppose. they're looked at particularly in bad light in brazil and other countries. so it doesn't take long for a president to win, to then turn into public enemy. >> mac margolis, always a pleasure to have you on. >> thank you very much. next on "gps," xi jinping has surprised the world lately, ending covid...

A week ago on january 8th, a mob in brazil's capital stormed the congress building, the supreme court, and the presidential palace. the images are reminisce sent of those that emerged from the attack on the u.s. capitol two years ago on january 6th. the protestors in brazil, like their american counterparts, believed the recent presidential election had been stolen. they were supporters of the right-wing populist former president jair bolsonaro, who lost in the october to luiz ignacio lula da silva lula da silva. so what happens next? joining me now is mac margolis. he spent four decades repor...

>> translator: i can't see him daily, as is the case with many other ukrainian families. when i come to the office, i come to see him. in his office today, we had lunch together with some of the families. it's cool when your husband is a president, you can see him on the tv screen and you can see everything is okay. but we do miss one another, and i do miss my husband, and we hope to be together again to have our usual family evenings