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Either criminal or civil proceedings. so, yes, there is an aspect to it that is very concerning. i think this is one of the reasons that the president selected judge cavanaugh over all ofof the federalist society potential nominees because judge cavanaugh is the only one who said, well, the president should not have to respond to criminal or civil proceedings while he or she is sitting. so i think that that has definitely been brought to this president's attention. and so i'm not surprised that he picked judge cavanaugh. all of these issues have got to be brought out in his hearing. and i inte...

>> yes. and the reason remains. it was after the michael cohen guilty pleas and manafort's conviction on eight counts that i said considering that the president picked judge cavanaugh in my yview because of judge cavanaugh's position in terms of the president's powers and the limitations to any civil or criminal proceedings, i thought you know, the president did not deserve my sitting with his nominee, but of course i will be at the hearing and i will ask junk ca judge cavanaugh all kinds of questions relating to this and so many areas. >> but if he is confirmed everyone by a narrow margin, he...

That a pardon was coming forward. but i think that it would also be part of an obstruction assessment. >> the president said that mcgahn would be leaving after the brett kavanaugh confirmation. you're on that judiciary committee hearing. the hearings are supposed to continue next tuesday, wednesday, thursday. how do you plan to address the mueller probe in term tsz s of questioning of cavanaugh? some of these issues go up to the supreme court and he could play a role. >> i think it is in the context of what judge cavanaugh has said about the extent of executive privilege, executive powers and ...

So that was not the reason that i chose not meet with judge kafr you cavanaugh. but the judge will have every opportunity under oath to put his best foot forward as to why he should be confirms as a sitting supreme court justice and probably the fifth vote and many 5-4 decision also that will come down the pike that will impact people's health care, voting rights and individual rights. certainly a woman's right to choose will be on the line. >> we'll have extensive live coverage of those hearings starting on tuesday. and i want to get your reaction to the republican gubernatorial candidate in ...