Hallowed ground at arlington national cemetery as a campaign backdrop. Jim mccain calling it a violation police and protests raging for a third night in israel following the murders of six hostages, including american hersh goldberg, polin, the thousands of angry demonstrators demanding that their government strike a deal to free the remaining hostages i'm kaitlan collins, and this is the source but, labor day behind us, it is now full speed ahead until election day, just nine weeks from today, it is hard to believe, but yes, we're that close. And actually work even closer than that because in just three days from now, the first ballots will go out in the crowd critical battleground state of north carolina and as things are getting real, this reshaped race could not be closer as it stands at the moment donald trump and vice president harris both have potential path to victory and win the voting starting soon, listen to what trump is saying this timely plea that he's making to voters we don't have a long we have not a lot 60 days we don't have a long time. The votes start going very shortly and we have to we have to be prepared to fight very hard. Look, she's going to destroy our country if she's elected our country. Well be a different place. It'll be a disaster should note, it's 63 days, but still very soon until that election. But really look at what's happening one week from tonight when trump and harris will be facetoface on the debate stage at this hour, which will actually be the first time that they have ever met in person. We have new reporting ahead this hour on how harris is preparing for that showdown. We'll get to that in a moment. But today her campaign is primarily focused on needling trump's over the critical issue of reproductive rights, launching another bus tour, right in trump's backyard this time near maralago. And harris for her part, is going to be delivering a speech tomorrow. Row in new hampshire, rolling out new economic proposals. And speaking of the live free or die state, the trump campaign has just barred a top volunteer for the campaigns new england operation after that volunteer told supporters in an email that trump was effectively pulling out of new hampshire to focus on other battlegrounds. Dates because the campaign determined new hampshire was no longer one of them. I should note the trump campaign says that's not true, that they still have a strong ground presence there. But a lot to discuss tonight, my political sources who are here at the table with me, including vice president harris is former communications director jamal simmons. Trump's former white house community occasions director alyssa farah griffin, as well as cnn political commentator, and the host of spectrum news is the big deal with errol louis. Errol louis great to have you all here, but elicit, let me on this new hampshire stuff that's coming out, this is tom mountain. He's a volunteer. The trump campaign is downplaying his role, but in this email that he sent out to other republicans who is saying that there there are suspending all their resources in the state at this moment is thompson posting on truth social today about harris and new hampshire, where it will first and foremost, that would be the prudent thing to do. Trump is not going to carry new hampshire. That's simply a fact. There are important down ballot races, obviously, kelly ayotte isn't a tight race for the governor ship there. So i would you would hope that the republican party and trump campaign is directing resources to her, but listen, kamala harris upended the race. There was a moment when joe biden was stolen. They were talking about virginia being in play for republicans and for trump. Now, this looks like a competitive match word, the sunbelt is somewhere they're going to have to spend money. She's appearing in florida a state she's not going to win. But i think it gets speaks to the fact that this became a very narrow field. It is really going to come down to just a handle. Handful of these battleground states. And she has him on his toes. That said, it's neck and neck. We see these polls every single day. I could not put good money on who is going to win this election but she's got the resources and she's putting them out there yeah. When you heard trump saying you it's not gonna be closed, it is going to be closed despite that harris has a very particular framing of how she's talking about this race, errol, this is what she said today about it. It's going to be a tight race to the very end. So let's not pay too much attention to those polls. We are the underdogs in this race. I mean, she doesn't want anyone looking at any of the polls showing her up and in any of the battlegrounds and becoming too comfortable, that's exactly right. And regardless of the polls, the one that really counts if you really want to gauge what the campaign thinks is important and where they want her to be. Just look at where she's going, right. She's making yet another trip into georgia in the next few days. She's going to be making another trip into north carolina. We know what she's trying to do. We know why she's trying to do it, and that is what really matters. Polls, of course are a snapshot. The thing is, the snapshot of somebody who hasn't made up their mind yet. So you catch somebody on any given day they're going to look to the left, are going to look to the right. They might be leaning this way or that way. So she understands what's going on. I'm sure her campaign aides have pounded into her head that they have a chance to do something that will be historic. Historymaking. But that means you can't pay attention to the polls the way you normally would. You have to design your strategy, stick to your strategy, no matter what, not get thrown by stray comments from the other side and certainly not by the pulse. Well, and speaking of first, he's going she's want to be in pennsylvania for the whole week on starting on thursday, jamal, she's going to pittsburgh. And what we're being told by sources that she's just basically camping out there until that debate one week from today in philadelphia on tuesday, do think that's the right strategy. What do you make of that? she's got to focus on pennsylvania because pennsylvania is so important. The strategy that takes them to north carolina and georgia, and even some of these expansion states, arizona is once important because she has a chance of perhaps having an electoral college route if she catches the right wave, the problem is you've got to be there, but pennsylvania is linchpin to make sure this all works. They're going to be in debate camp mode right? so some of this is going to be like, let's camp out and do some day trips, right? there aren't going to tax the candidate too much get back and do more prep. They've got to figure out how do they make an argument about donald trump, not just throw a bunch of facts at the wall, right? the only people will remember the core argument that's made in that debate. And that means that there's going to be some things voters might want to hear. Hear about. They won't hear about because they just don't support the argument that the candidate in the campaign are trying to make during that debate? yeah and trump is looking at this debate. He's been doing debate prep for this earlier than he did for joe biden. It seems based on what we've been hearing, alice, i mean, what does that look like behind closed doors with trump, who has not successfully land? did an attack line on harris, really? yeah. And he frames it as policy time, which is basically different advisors going in and reminding him what his key points are on some of the core policies they're hoping he'll hit on and proactively talk about in the debate. He's never, you know, this, he's never been a traditional debate prep where you've got somebody playing the other candidate and he does it for 90 minutes and it's just asking a ton of questions. So i think that he is he's got staff around him who are trying to remind them of the issues that win for him with voters, the border, the economy, onshoring american jobs. But he also is going up against somebody who is so different than who thought he was running against a woman much younger than him, who he's never actually met. It has really strong feelings about they need to be prepping him to not go off the rails, to not lash out to not name call. It won't play well for him with the people he needs to win over. But it's donald trump. You just, you never know what you're going to get. Well, i'm so glad you brought that up because trump did this lengthy podcast today and he the person was essentially saying it's so much better when you're on message than when you you are not on message and it it's the most trumpian moment, errol, you just everyone should just watch it and see what trump's response was from my personal opinion, i think you are at your best when you're talking about a positive vision of the future versus criticizing the other side. Yeah i think you have to criticize though. I think i think they are nasty hey it was got to say reluctant with of course. Sadly, it is his duty to sort of be aggressive and nasty. What he's not really going to be ready for. I think this is really where he ought to spend some debate prep time is that kamala harris, unlike joe biden, is going to go on the attack. This is a professional process this is somebody knows how to break it down, hit you here, here, here, and then come back and do it again. And i think that's going to be the kind of narrative that she sort of builds in a way that he won't be able to wiggle out of the normal trump response is to say something so outrageous that it throws the opponent off guard. It captures the headline, it how many it's the debate. I don't know if that's going to be available to me. That's a great point because today, trump just pleaded not guilty formally, again, to that retooled indictment by jack smith in the election interference case, his attorneys are formally going to go and do that on thursday, trump has waived his right to an appearance, but one of the criticisms that i heard from democrats and white house officials after the cnn debate was biden didn't bring up trump's conviction enough, or his indictments enough. Is that something that you think she's in a bring up a lot depends on what their core argument is. They might decide that people know enough about that. It may also be that there's only one of them they really want to go out. There's only one when proof point, they need to make to make sure the voters are trying to target really understand it. But this is a key point about what errol was just saying, what they can't do is get into a policy point counterpoint because that's not going to convince anybody of anything is going to be a bunch of facts up against the wall. They got to have a core argument and somebody's job also has to be the debate prep can you say this word? a halt or national tv but somebody is but someone has got to be the here, like somebody's got to sit there and really pepper her and get her to get annoyed and aggravated because that's probably what trump's going to do. What you want her to do with the workout that aggravation in prep and not do it when she's on stage. But that's a great point. Does try i'll do that in prep though. Is he willing to let someone as jamal puts it, be the a whole to him. I mean, trump doesn't really like being criticized, not in my experience, and i never did presidential debate with him, but i did prep for town halls in media interviews, he does. Even if you prep him and say, hey, they might ask, you know, do you denounce white nationalism? this was an actual conversation i had before nbc town hall. He did they're going to ask that and flew off the handle, didn't want to answer it. So that's a hero like you and that's not easy thing to prep. And also a really easy answer by the way but he's not someone you could prep in a traditional sense, in the biggest thing for him is simply to not get in enraged or say something then crazy if he can stay at the baseline, that will work with the people who are already with him and not lose him support. But i think by the way, we forget the cnn biden debate. Biden imploded so much that trump kind of got it passed. He was a disaster for a solid half of that debate. The back half of it, he's talking about his golf handicap. He's going all over the map that won't fly next to someone like kamala harris, it just won't work the same. Yeah, hopefully there's no comparing of golf scores by people who want the nuclear codes there was this moment today, pat toomey, the former senator from pennsylvania, was on cnbc and was saying, he's not voting for donald trump lifelong republican. Everyone on capitol hill knows him let's just this interesting answer that he had about why this is what he had to say when you lose an election and you try to overcome the result, we want our we all are familiar was made. Well, those me, it is an acceptable position for me to say that neither of these candidates the hosts, there was arguing with him saying, you know, supreme court justices are the corporate tax rate should matter more, but, but to hear pat toomey, this lifelong republicans say you've lost me at this. How is trump really? he doesn't seem to be making any inroads to those kinds of voters. And that's look, that's a problem for him. I mean, what former senator toomey was saying was that what you did on january 6, donald trump that's a dealbreaker for me, you know, treason is a deal breaker for the insurrection is a deal breaker for me. I'm not, you know, you're not getting me back. And if there's enough of those people in the right states and he happens to be from pennsylvania. That's going to be a real problem. But the trump campaign, so will he dial it back in some way? i don't know. I may he's been talking about giving pardons to the hundreds and hundreds of people who have been convicted of federal crimes in connection with the insurrection. So it doesn't sound like he's prepared to try and get pat toomey back or the pat toomey of the world. But he also said he's not voting for harris how does she speak to people like the pad tomb is the world. Look, i think they've got a tear if people are going after right here are the people we can convince to vote for us and they don't vote for us, don't vote for him either, right? that's okay. What you do want to deprive them of that vote? it does feel like there are more and more republicans who are willing to say things in public today. That weren't willing to do that over the last couple of years, you saw jimmy mccain today. I think you going to talk about that. That's a big deal. That people are going to, because someone talks about the permission structure of giving other people the opportunity to say, you know what? i don't really like this guy. Maybe it's okay not to vote for him. I don't know. You live in this world more than any of us you make it i'm incredibly important point because i've lived in the space for the last four years. I'm not going to tell you to vote for a democrat as a lifelong republican who has never vote for a democrat. But i'm going to tell you why i don't think you should vote for trump. And when biden was falling behind, the response was, but then that's just a vote for donald trump. It's a little different when it's a lot tighter. Like, i honestly, they commonly harris should take the i'm not voting for her, but i'm definitely it's only not voting for him voters because that's just denying him votes in key battleground states. Yeah, fascinating to watch. Nine weeks from today. Thank you all for being here up. Next we have new reporting on that debate prep that we just talked about with jamal. How and where she is going to be preparing for a debate that could be critical in this race. And also the son of late republican icon john mccain publicly going after donald trump for that visit to arlington cemetery a lot of people in america were watching and then the next day our world change, murphy has baby quayle has cao owns coming out episode says we're it's okay to be gay. 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We, abc news presidential debate simulcast next tuesday at nine with just seven days to go until a critical debate night. Vice president harris has what one might call the game tape on donald trump, given we all watched him debate president and biden just two months ago, and we all saw how that went. But fresh off her exclusive interview right here on cnn last week with dana bash, a reproductive rights bus tour through battleground, georgia, a labor day appearance alongside president biden in pittsburgh. The question now is whether or not the vice president will avoid her bosses fate against donald trump this time around. My source tonight is the democratic senator from delaware, chris coons, senator. It's great to have you here. What lessons are you hoping that that harris learns from seeing that first trump biden debate to use in her own debate a week from tonight well, first gets to take him seriously. Look former president trump is capable of being a disruptive, a difficult opponent on a debate stage. His greatest strength is his complete unpredictability. He doesn't follow any script. He doesn't respect facts are norms and he just throws things out at a highspeed and with a lot of aggression. So i am confident that the vice president harris is wellprepared she is someone who as a former prosecutor, whose client was the people of the united states, knows well how to handle someone who is a repeat offender who really only works for himself but she's got to be prepared and i know she will be in our time together in the senate in my work with her as vice president, she is very well prepared and i think donald trump will struggle to figure out how to deal with her as someone he's never met before, someone he doesn't really know or understand. And you can see kaitlan in the last couple of weeks he has really struggled to get his footing. There's 63 days until our presidential election. And donald trump did nothing over labor day weekend except double down on some of his most outrageous comments about reproductive rights and to make a commitment that he's going to vote to read in force of florida's very strict abortion ban yeah, it's pretty remarkable that the first time they ever meet will be on that debate stage in a week from today. And i want to ask you about something that james carville road today. He was he's essentially giving harris advice and a new york times opinion piece. We'll see if she takes it or leaves at the democratic strategist saying that she should let him talk over her, that she shouldn't go to him and to spouting insane conspiracy theories about the election, use her sense of humor at key moments to get under his skin, show that he's not getting to her. And also welcome the personal attacks as a badge of honor. Is that the strategy you think she should take? i do agree with james carville that the more that she stays calm and deflect his almost certain to come unpleasant negative personal attacks. The more she just brushes it off and makes it clear that he's not getting under her skin the more likely it is that he will spout some of his more unhinged conspiracy theories, some of his views on the world. And society. If you watch his campaign rallies they are long, rambling unfocused diatribes. He has in recent weeks taken long time to talk about whether he'd rather die by a shark eating him or electrocution talking about hannibal lecter making unfounded conspiracy theories or unhinged comments. As you just reported a few minutes ago the son of a former colleague of mine at genuine american war hero john mccain was so offended by what former president trump did at arlington national cemetery that he announced publicly he's going to vote for vice president harris when you really get under donald trump's skin, you get to hear what he actually thinks. And he recently said publicly something about the congressional medal of honor and those who earn it, often by dying and sacrifice to our nation and our military, and how he thought the presidential medal of freedom, which he had given and to a donor to his campaign was a better recommendation, was a better medallion of service to our country than the congressional medal of honor. That's just one of many ways in which the former president has disrespected our military, our veterans, those who fallen service to our nation. And i think it's striking as you just covered few moments ago, that my former colleague, republican senator pat toomey of pennsylvania, has also just said, he can't vote for donald trump because of what he did to encourage an attempted overthrowing the results of the last election. I want to ask you about the harris strategy though, because you're obviously an incredibly close ally of president biden's as well. He's gonna be out in battleground states this week. He's got a events in wisconsin and michigan. We saw in pennsylvania yesterday, all of those blue wall critical states where he narrowly beat trump in 2020 but before he dropped out of this race, he was behind the polls in the polls in those states. And so i think it's a question of, is he the best surrogate for her? or in those states? and if so, why do you think so i think he's a great surrogate and i think you saw on labor day in pennsylvania joe biden connecting with folks who know him so well, who he's represented for decades. He was born in scranton, pennsylvania. I was just there a little over a week ago campaigning for the harriswalz ticket in scranton with folks who've known joe biden their whole lives. I campaigned in several different places across the state of pennsylvania. And i'll tell you, folks still deeply appreciate joe biden's lifetime of service, his values, the way he conducts himself, and the way he's rooted in his faith, his family and his dedication to service. Why is he a great surrogate because across the three states you just mentioned michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. People know him. The only reason he was beginning to fall behind was of questions about his energy given his age today, donald trump, a 78yearold, demonstrably blake unfit man both physically and morally to continue in service as president, is facing an opponent and kamala harris, who is a generation younger, who is dynamic and energetic and who was endorsed by joe biden. In joe biden, you've got someone folks respect. They know his values, they know is priorities and they know he fight he's for the middleclass. And in donald trump, they see someone who mostly fights for himself so i think joe biden's going to be a great surrogate, a great campaign partner and someone who can talk about vice president harris's experience and leadership role in getting done the great things that the biden/harris administration has done for the american middle the class. Senator chris coons joining us from all the way overseas. Thank you for taking the time. Kaitlan kaitlan, if i could for just one sentence, i wanted to share that. I'm here in seoul, korea with a bipartisan delegation of u. S. Senators. One of the greatest accomplishments of the biden administration has been and a year ago, the camp david summit that brought together prime minister kishida of japan, president yoon of korea and we are here today in seoul, a bipartisan group of senators working to strengthen and to deepen that partnership between south korea, japan, and the united states. It's led by senator a gritty, but you've got a broad and representative group of senators, and i appreciate the chance to make sure i emphasize why this is a good thing for us to be doing to extend this key strategic accomplishment yeah i'm clearly you don't need any sleep, senator chris coons. Thank you very much thanks. 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I'm katie bo lillis in washington cnn tonight, the son of the late senator john mccain says donald trump's campaign event at arlington national cemetery was a violation with first lieutenant jim mccain telling jake tapper this earlier these young people are taking time out of their lives when they could be bettering themselves, college, things like that and they're joining the military because they feel it's the right thing. And the least we can do is when they're gone, if they when they're in arlington is to respect the rules and regulations that are in place, like not politicizing the fact that these men and women are there go show respect under i understand that he was invited. Show respecting leaf. It doesn't need to be videoed that comes as trump is continuing to insist that the u. S. Army is lying about what happened during that visit was no conflict, there was no fight. It was no anything. And i get home that night and i get a call from one of the people that is press sir, there's a story that your people got into a tremendous fight with people representing the cemetery trump says the army's version of what happened when his team took photos and film to the cemetery in ways that violate the army regulations and federal law it's a ally and also implied that it could have been a setup. Trump was at arlington to mark three years since the bombing at kabul's airport, abbey gate in afghanistan, that killed 13 u. S service members the families of several of those service members say they invited trump to be there and to take pictures but political activity at the cemetery is not allowed. Despite that trump's campaign posted a video of the visit on tiktok showing the former president walking through arlington and visiting different grave gravesites. The army then said that trump's team knew the rules, yet abruptly pushed aside a cemetery employee who tried to enforce that the trump campaign denies that a physical altercation happened. And now the former president is claiming that vice president harris, quote, made it all up i'm joined tonight by the veterans of foreign wars and national commander, retired army captain outlet, part of captain, i want to say first, thank you for your service and thank you for joining us on this. Obviously, donald trump had every right to be at the cemetery with the goldstar families who, who wanted him there? but in your view, do you think it's appropriate to use an event like that one for political purposes or do you think it crosses a line well, the veterans of foreign wars has been exemptions for 125 years and are 1. 4 million members, i can assure you would be against anyone to try to to politicize especially on that hallowed ground but the fact that that family or those families invited mr. Trump to be there to show their respect for the last full measure of devotion that those individuals gave into allow him to photograph it or habit photographed is that's a that's a prerogative that they had and you get i would not presume to know the law that is on the books about holding a political event on on the national cemetery. But i know that the veterans of foreign wars, when we were founded the purposes for ternell patriotic historical charitable and educational and we we respect and honor those that have paid the ultimate price. Everybody that serves in uniform is due respect. But those who deployed, well, that's what that's what we're that's what we're for and i really can't that you'd have take that up, but the family, sean allowing gun because i don't know what the lawyers will yeah you know, i looked into this earlier because i was curious. I've been to arlington many times. It's delivering in washington and would go so they're periodically, it's essentially saying not even blatant political activities. It's just even the impression of it given of course, you know, you can't presume the politics or anything of any of those, those, those people and those who gave their lives i just want to ask though, you know, trump is the army is saying one thing trump is saying another, you served in the army from 1965 to 1979 i mean, have you ever would you believe that anything they have they've said would be dishonest or not exactly what happened i live with shame country as you kaitlan. And i'm around to shame people as you and when i hear something, i hear it if i did it, she said i don't know i can't believe everything that i hear. That's my way of saying that yeah. I think there are people that will say anything, you know, this is just a shame that it's this happened to be a political the election season. I mean two to for a former president and there have been a number i know that president obama and president clinton as well as a number of others, have burned to the national cemetery and done what what mr. Trump did and that was too honor those that gave the ultimate sacrifice. But now, you know to say that he went beyond that, i can't say i didn't see it. The army says it wasn't there yeah. They're saying a campaign staff or push someone aside and i should note, your group is a political. You're joining us here tonight you know, after trump said that the presidential medal of freedom, which is for civilians, was much better. Or to get than the medal of honor, obviously, which is for our military and people who often give their lives and their service here you said those remarks were quote, asinine, it was a remarkable moment because you're not a group that often speaks out in moments like that. As i said, very political do you stand by those comments absolutely. But they were not directed mr. Trump those comments were anybody that would shave that the presidential medal of freedom is comparable? or actually more prestigious. Than the medal of honor. That's an asinine statement and when you look in the dictionary to find a definition of ashwini is just extraordinarily stupid. That is an extraordinarily stupid remark for anybody to make that those who have gone above and beyond the call of duty to sacrifice their life, show others can live to say that it is not, it should not be held in higher esteem than the presidential medal of freedom is ludicrous near the presidential medal of freedom freedom only takes one person to nominate. That it'd be the president the medal of honor is not awarded by the president it is presented by the president the middle of is a congressional medal that is the people of the united states. The people of the united states is who awards or approves that, that metal for those individuals. And what a yeah, again, it's just not but unfortunately you know some people again, it's an election season. If people read into it, i don't take back on. I don't take back my remark. It was an asinine thing to say but it was not he just he just happened to be the one that's was there when he when he checked it. And that's what that's what veterans of forum for i mean, we take care of veterans yeah. We want to make sure that promises were made by the promises that are kept and we appreciate that so much and