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App. Coming up next washington journal, your reaction to last ninth Vice President ial debate between Vice President mike pence and senator Kamala Harris. Host good morning. It is thursday, october 8, 2020. Last night, mike pence and Kamala Harris stepped on the debate stage at the university of utah at 9 00 eastern and stepped off at 10 30. It was a 90 minute class mostly over the leadership of President Trump and the policy plans of joe biden. We want to hear about you about those exchanges and who you thing one the only Vice President ial debate of campaign 2020. Give us a call on the phone lines. If you support the trunk fence ticket, 202 7488001 is the number. If you support the biden harris ticket, 202 7488000. If you are undecided or supporting thirdparty candidate, 202 7488002 is the number. You can also send us a text text, and that number is 202 7488003. Catchise, catch up was up with us on social media. Andwitter, it is cspanwj we are on facebook at facebook. Com cspan. Headlines this morning on both sides. Pence master class dominates the vp debate. Kamala awkward. Smirks and scowls from the blaze news organization. Record,fend stroms harris dodges this is how it played on the left from slate this morning. There was no way for mike pence to defend stroms record. Debateharriss had great points but it rested on the terrible record of the incumbents. And this is from the Washington Post, with nearly 200,012 dead the responsehas has been great. Here is part of what senator Kamala Harris 212,000 dead, thatpence has the response the coronavirus Pandemic Response has been great. Heres what part of what they said. China did not play straight with the American People. They did not let our personnel into china to get information of the coronavirus on the coronavirus until the middle of february. Thankfully, President Trump has been standing up to china who has been taking care taking advantage of americans in decades. President trump may that decision before the end of january to suspend all travel from china. The American People deserve to know that joe biden opposed President Trumps decision to suspend all travel from china. He said it was hysterical. Thank you, Vice President pence. He will continue to stand strong. Host that was mike pence on the coronavirus last night. Heres what senator Kamala Harris had to say. The American People have the greatestt is failure of any president ial administration in the history of our country. Here are the facts. People in the last several months in our country. Over 7 Million People have contracted the disease. Ne in five businesses closed we are looking at frontline workers who have been treated like sacrificial workers, looking at over 30 million severalho, in the last months, had to file for unemployment. Here is the thing, on january 28, the Vice President and president were informed about the nature of this pandemic. They were informed it is lethal lethal in consequence, that it is airborne, that it will affect young people, and that it would be contracted because it is airborne. They knew what was happening and they did not help you did not tell you. Host senator Kamala Harris at the first and only Vice President ial debate of camping 2020. We are taking your calls throughout the three hours of washington journal this morning. We want to know your reaction and who you think won. Here is pedro. The navirus was 870 seconds total for the topic of covid, raining out to 14. 5 minutes. Looking at other categories, the president s health and joe biden south, 356 seconds on that discussion. Health. 356 seconds on that discussion. When it comes to discussion on taxes, 10 minutes on that. Seven minutes on topic of Climate Change. Three minutes on the topic of jobs. Theres other information there if you want to take a look at the data. He also has data looking at the number of interruptions. That was a theme you saw from the first debate and last night, not merely the amount. But ed okeefe breaks it down saying, according to cbs news and their count, it was the Vice President interrupting Kamala Harris 10 times during the force of course of the backandforth. Kamala harris interrupted the Vice President a total of five times. For total speaking time for both candidates, it was about equal. 30 Vice President got about minutes and two seconds of speaking time. Host more from pedro throughout the morning and more of your phone calls throughout the morning. A whole lot of them this morning. We will start with mike in South Carolina on the line for those who support the biden harris ticket. Mike, good morning. Caller good morning. I did not think either of them one. I think we won. I think we, the voting public, lost because i think susan page asked good questions. Unfortunately, neither one of them chose to answer the questions asked but you talk about whatever they choose to talk about. Anymore, i want to vote based on either of those two. I will vote on the president ial candidate, so i think we the voting public, again, lost out because i wish they would have answered the questions asked. Host do you think susan page could have done more to get them to answer the questions she originally asked . Caller i dont know how the moderator can do more. She tried very often to shut them off. Neither one of them reacting well to that or stopping. It should not be the moderators responsibility to tried to shut them down. It should be to try to get them to answer the questions that are asked, and not what they preprepared to say. Host mike, thanks to your call from South Carolina. A daily color with this headline in the reppo, 90 minutes of dodging questions, punctuated by a surprise flyby guest. Next is on the line for those who support the trump pence ticket. Caller good morning, and thank you for taking my call. As a former democrat most of my life, and im a senior citizen, it is not about my team winning anymore. This is not the party of john f. Kennedy, the democrats. You have to look at the proof and the putting in what head as been and what it has been the last four years. Forget about trumps tweets. It is what has taken place in the last four years, minus the coronavirus. Unbelievable, the jobs, the military, helping veterans, the list goes on and on. Pence last night, they both have their strong tonts, but if it came down joe biden being sick and harris taking over as president , that is not a good thing. She does not have the experience. Michael pence has been a governor for many years, always been doing the right thing. Just look at their records and it will tell their story. Bottom line is, when i go to a restaurant and i order my dish every week, i love it, it comes to my plate. I dont care with the guy behind the looks like, what the color of his skin is, i care about what is happening in my plate as i meeting. Thats what happens with our as i am eating. Thats what happens in our country. Donald trump is a businessman and knows how to get things done. Joe biden has been in office for 47 years, and this is the biggest part, being in office for 47 years, he does not have one backing of one police organization, sheriffs department, anywhere in the country. That has to tell you something. Host thats dave out of florida. For more on the moderators debate, susan page, we go back to pedro. This is someone who didnt interview with usa today giving our thoughts and she said i didnt get the answers all the questions i had hoped to get she told the editorinchief. Prepared i got speeches instead of spontaneous responses. She said she had a clock on the desk to keep a tally and she said early on, it was clear that i had to do more aggressive moderation then planned to keep it about equal. If you want to read more, go to usa today. From ao has an analysis moderator perspective. Page repeatedly allowed kamala pence tod mike interrupt each other and she often declined followup when they dodged the substance of the question. Inability to rein in mike pence and repeatedly tried to get the Vice President to stop talking, saying variations of thank you 22 times over the course of the evening to no effect. Our bacterial phone calls, first undecided voter, mary out of virginia back to your phone calls, our first undecided voter, mary out of virginia. Caller good morning. My impression was that they both did well, much more substantive than the president ial, thank goodness. Mary, you have to turn talkyour television and to your phone. Do you want to finish your comment . Caller basically a lot more substance, which was great, but i think there was a line and i think it was offensive that the democrats are kind of using the pandemic to their leveraging pandemic leveraging to their benefit. The line that your plan looks a lot like ours was a great line because that is the truth. Listened to dr. Birx, dr. Fauci, all of those that cspan was showing. Not all the channels were showing the reports of the covid. I had a mom who was sick and i was listening, so it just feels and i know that look at adopted chinese for the day, and he was not paying attention to it. He had people in florence posting on social media pictures of the chinese, because they were afraid to lead, and say this is something to take serious. I feel like the democrats do a lot of that too. Host that was mary in virginia. The next is out of douglasville, virginia on the line who support President Trump and Vice President pence. Caller how are you . I was very impressed with mike pence. He did a good job of bringing out certain things in regard to issue of china. I thought he did a good job in terms of rebutting pretty much everything Kamala Harris had to say. I think the republicans feel confident that mike pence, should anything happen to trump in his next term, mike pence could go right in. I was impressed with the whole situation. The here is part of exchange from the debate last night on the issue of transparency. Do voters have a right to know more detail Health Information about president ial candidates and especially about president , especially when they faced some kind of challenge . Absolutely. That is why joe biden has been transparent, and the president has not. Both in terms of Health Records but also taxes. Of greatow, because investigative journalism, that taxes. Trump paid 750 in when i first heard about it, i literally said you mean 750,000 . And it was like no, 750. We now know donald trump o and is in debt for 400 million. Just so everyone is clear, and that means you owe money to somebody. Who the be good to know president of the United States, the commanderinchief owes money to. The American People have a right to know what is influencing the president s decision, and is he making the decisions on the best interest of the American People or selfinterest . So susan, im glad you asked about transparency. It has to be acrosstheboard. Go has been transparent over joe over many years. Has been transparent over many years. He puts it out there, has been forthright, but donald trump is about covering up everything. I want to give you a chance to respond, Vice President. I respect that joe biden has spent 47 years in public life and i respect your Public Service as well. Ae American People have president who is a businessman, a job creator. Hes pay tens of millions of dollars in payroll taxes, created tens of thousands of american jobs. The president says those public reports are not accurate and the president released stacks of Financial Disclosures the American Financial American People can review, but the distinction is that joe bidens 47 years in Public Service compared to President Donald Trump, who brought all of that experience four years ago, and turn this economy around by cutting taxes, rolling back regulations, fighting for free and fair trade, and all of that. Host plenty more from last nights debate throughout our three hours of washington journal today in taking your phone calls washington journal today, and taking your phone calls. One person already talking about the issue of dodging questions. More on that from pedro. Several write ups about that in this mornings analysis of the events of last night. One piece taking a look at the debate saying both Vice President ial debate candidates dodged a question early about whether they would discuss procedures of president ial disability. They asked on successions plans succession plans and they pivoted. And targets axios, individual questions posed by the candidates to each other, or to each other or by the host. This is the question of the court that axios picked up. E president pence in the why it matters section, a number of democrats proposed the response to rob lukens rushing to confirm a Supreme Court justice with less than a month until the election. Does not like court packing. News, ao over to yahoo question posed about transfer of power. The Vice President skirted a question about whether donald trump would accept the results of the election. If we have a free and fair election, we will have confidence in it. I believe President Trump will be reelected for four years. More of these Available Online as part of the analysis of last nights debate. Host this is reginald waiting in washington, d. C. On the line for those who support the biden harris ticket. Caller good morning. Saw a different just like you are watching a different football game, i saw senator harris take over. She was commanding, she was a with there transparent people we were looking at. Ishink what im not hearing all of the coronavirus you have pens, the one supposed to be in charge of all of this pence, the one supposed to be in charge of all of this. At the white house, you have people thatthing contracted coronavirus with poor behavior of handling the coronavirus. The president , he is doing the same thing. He came out of the office to wait to the people. He gets home, gets out of the hospital in to the three days two to three days. Im reading reports that the reason why doctors can be straight is that he had his doctors, they had to sign nondisclosure forms. Think that she handled herself , and with hericy law background, attorney general background, she pretty much surprised that she certainly could handle the wave of the office if it came to that. Host thats reginald in d. C. On President Trump health and doctors. From the wall street journal , the president is on the mend according to his doctors. He has gone 24 hours without coronavirus symptoms in a memo released yesterday. In fourot had a fever days, oxygen saturation, respiratory rates were stable. The bloodwork from monday showed detectable levels of covid19 antibodies, the doctor said. It will be several days before a broader prognosis on President Trumps recovery is known. David in oxford, ohio. Next on the line for those undecideds. Forer thank you so much your delivery of unbiased content, number one. Cspan is fantastic on so many levels. Host appreciate that. Caller yes, i wanted to comment. Im undecided mainly because i think reginald brought up the nfl and i will parlay off of that. There is really no difference in our twoparty system. Down, somely drill of us dont have to drill down, you have the afc and nfc who have similar agendas. They are evading, in this case, last nights, they evade questions. These are two individuals albeit intelligent. These are people i would not invite to my backyard barbecue. They were asked explicit stions about the moderator questions. I thought the moderator did as well as she could, given the circumstances. It is a gross disservice to the American People that this one debate, the only debate the vp candidates are going to have, debated great questions. It is almost nauseating. Host we will stay in the Buckeye State of ohio, up to dayton. This is on the line for those who support President Trump and Vice President pence. Go ahead. Caller good morning. Thank you so much for taking my call. First of all, i think it is wrong to have this virus as even part of these debates. This administration did not create, or release, this virus. By theginal predictions two doctors, burks and faucher, dr. Birx and dr. Fauci, have over 2 Million People dying. Over 200,000 is not pleasant to think about at all, but we have no idea where we would be had different decisions been made. Host can i ask you on the issue of coronavirus you are bringing up here, i want to get your thoughts on the staging, the physical staging of the debate. This was brought up in todays Washington Post article, what spoke as loudly as anything wednesday night was the very staging of this debate. Pence and harris sat widely separated with each other with plexiglass barriers but barriers between them. Yes, and again, i think it is wrong that this is even part of this discussion. About who should be the next president. We have no idea what would have happened had biden been the this pandemic. G the point was made. Their plan was no different than what we are doing. Also, this discussion about the United States looking so much worse than other countries. We have a different system of government here, and our president shows the federalist approach. He let the states decide on important issues. Biden would be the kind of tyrant, if you will, to impose sanctions on all people, arbitrarily. So we just dont know we do know where we are at and we know a year from now we will likely be in a better position than we are now. I would like to see this not part of this political discussion at all. Host art in dayton, ohio. We are getting your reaction to the debate last night. Pedro has been keeping track of reaction on capitol hill. With more on that, here is pedro. Before i go to that, an announcement on the commission from president ial debates, the organization in charge of organizing the debate and forms they take. The next one featuring the president s or President Trump and the Vice President , will take a different format. In order to protect the health and safety of all involved in the second president ial debate scheduled for october the 15th, the commission on president ial debates announced the second president ial debate will take the form of a town meeting where willarticipants participate from different locations. Steve scully will be at the art center for the performing arts of miami florida. The white house will provide coverage of the second president ial debate. Remember it was joe biden expressing concerns about the president s concision condition. Now, did i congressional reaction. , theis Chuck Grassley republican from iowa, saying the Vice President had the strongest answers on the policies of the country. Vp highlighted President Trumps accomplishments and promises made and promises kept. Aoc says why is it that mike pence doesnt seem to have to answer any questions asked of him in this debate . Also pete king of new york saying outstanding debate. Ad depth of knowledge then, the representative from minnesota, i will not sit here and be lectured, a quote you heard last night. Patriarchy and misogyny taking a beating tonight. You also heard from the people that helped prep debate candidates, pete buttigieg, the former person running for the office of the president of the United States, helped Kamala Harris, saying she powerfully made the case of electing joe biden. It was reality versus fantasy on the health care, and so much more. Scott walker, former governor of wisconsin, he helped the Vice President in his preparation saying grand slam. Host coming up on 7 30 eastern, taking your phone calls about the Vice President ial debate for our entire program on the washington journal. This is audrey out of georgia next. Good morning on the line for those that the line for those wo support the bidenharris ticket. Caller good morning. I think the debate last night, Kamala Harris was pretty strong. She held her own but for some odd reason, mike pence, just like donald trump, does not know when to stop. It means your time is up. And why did he come to the eye . E with thinpink i dont understand why anybody at this point in time is undecided. If you look at the things that donald trump does and says, thinks about raising your children like that. Think about what he is teaching your children. Do you want your children to sit down and listen to this stuff, the namecalling . Promise. S not kept one he has completely failed the filled theely world will hate. You give him four more years and the United States will not be the United States anymore. Host from new york on the line of those who support the trumppenn state get. Money, go ahead. Benny, you have to stick by your phone. Steve on the undecided line from missouri, go ahead. You, cspan. I am an independent. I dont like either party. Only thing mike pence has done the past four years is kiss up to trump. That is all he can stand for. Camila, she is pretty good. I kind of like her. I just dont like biden that much. They are standing on the aca. That helps the poor but it doesnt hurt the middle class. But it doesnt help the middle class. None of us can afford the health care. Host youre on the undecided line. What is going to decide it for you . What are you waiting to hear . Iller eileen ford toward Kamala Harris and joe biden because he will stand for democracy and for helping the poor. But he is not doing enough for the middle class. If you go with pence and trump, more lies,will be more division and more tax cuts for the rich. Host sarah is next here in washington, d. C. Supports the biden harris ticket. Go ahead . Caller i support the bidenkamala ticket, first and foremost because of their stance on climate. In 2020, we cannot be denying the science. We have to do something about it. We have to hear more from the president ial candidates in the debate about what they will do about Climate Change. This is the existential threat of our time. For voters, it is one of our top priorities. We need to hear more about what the candidates will do about it in the next debate. Host were you presently surprised by how quickly the issue of Climate Change came up last night . I believe it was the third or fourth topic out of nine that were brought up by the moderator last night. Caller i was pleasantly surprised but i shouldnt be pleasantly surprised because, again, it is 2020 and it should be automatically a part of the debate. We have fires in the west, storms in the south, folks are living through the crisis now. It is not coming. It is here. We need to hear what the aboutates are going to do it and that should be the case in the next president ial debate. Host thanks for the call. Kate out in oregon, supports President Trump, go ahead. Ler i like trump that are better. Host why do you like trump better . Caller because he does a good job. Host on what subjects do you think he has done a good job . Caller kept his word on everything. Host did you watch the debate last night . Caller yes, i did. Host who do you think won . Caller i liked the debate. Host kate in oregon. Carry in florida, undecided. Go ahead. Caller good morning. My name is scar my name is carrie. I am undecided because i didnt like the thing that tends mentioned pence plagiarism but he didnt acknowledge what their plan was. But she did. As, he was very evasive with the questions. When she was asked a question by the moderator when he was asked a question by the moderator, he went back to the prior response and did not answer many questions. He was very evasive. She was evasive on the Supreme Court question. I think she should have responded to that. I am undecided because i dont know. I agree with the prior caller that the Trump Administration has not in supportive of the makingclass or people under 100,000. He has not been supportive. I believe the tax weeks he gave to the wealthy is hurting the tax breaks he gave to the wealthy is hurting the economy. Host you bring up Kamala Harris not answering the specific question asked about potentially packing the Supreme Court. Here is that moment from the debate. [video clip] when he spake about the Supreme Court, the American People deserve an answer, harris. Or you and joe biden going to pack the court judge Amy Coney Barrett is confirmed . There have been 29 vacancies on the Supreme Court during election years, from George Washington to barack obama, the president s have nominated in all cases, but your party is openly advocating adding seats to the Supreme Court, which has had nine seats for 150 years, if you dont get your way. This is a classic case of if you cant win by the rules, you change the rules. You refused as of the question. Joe biden refused to answer the question. The American People would like to know, if judge Amy Coney Barrett is confirmed to the Supreme Court, are you and joe biden, if somehow you win the question, are you going to pack the Supreme Court to get your way . I am so glad we went through a history lesson. Lets do that a little more. In 1864. I would like you to answer the question . I am speaking. In 1864, one of the i think political heroes, i assume of yours, mr. Vice president , Abraham Lincoln, was up for reelection. It was 27 days before the election and a seats became open on the United States Supreme Court. Abraham lincolns party was in charge not only of the white house, but the senate, but honest abe said it is not the right thing to do. The American People deserve to make the decision about who will be the next president of the United States. And then that person can select who will serve for a lifetime on the highest court of our land. So joe and i are very clear, the American People are voting right now, and it should be their serve onabout who will this most important body for a lifetime. Susan, the American People are voting right now and he would like to know if you and joe biden will pack the Supreme Court if you dont get your way. You get in on answer. Nonanswer. Ve a the American People deserve a straight answer and if you havent submitted out yet, the straight answer is they will pack the Supreme Court if they win the election. I can tell you people across this country, if you cherish the Supreme Court, if you cherish powers, you need to reject the biden harris ticket come november 3 and reelect President Donald Trump and we will stand by the separation of powers. Lets talk about packing the Supreme Court, then. Please. I am about to. So, the trumppence administration, i sit on the Senate Judiciary committee and i have witnessed the appointments, the Lifetime Appointments to the federal courts, District Courts and federal courts of appeals, people who are purely ideological, who have been reviewed by a legal professional organizations and found to be not competent or substandard. Do you know that of the 50 people who President Trump appointed to the court of appeals for Lifetime Appointments, not one is black . This is what they have been doing. You want to talk about packing a court, lets have that discussion. Host plenty more from thats next debate and your reaction this morning on washed up washington journal plenty more from thats next debate. And your reaction this morning journal. Washington crag, what did you think of the debate . Caller i think Kamala Harris did a wonderful job. In all aspects. But i wanted to bring something up about health care. Lucky that i was able to get obamacare. Itad a colonoscopy done and was precancerous. If i would have waited two more months, they would have had to operate on me. So it was under the extended medicaid. All the people out there listening, you have to vote for the democrats if you want some kind of health care, because you will be granted everything in health care. That is pretty much what i wanted to say. Trump lies all the time. The whole Republican Party mcconnell, Lindsey Graham, all of them are hypocrites. I dont see how people can just follow these kind of people. Host cindy out of chesapeake, virginia on the line for those who support the trump pence ticket. Good morning. Caller thank you for taking my call. , i was so upset with hillary in the 30 years of what was going on. Trump, because he was so dust. Decide. Ard for me to when he came out with his list ipreme court justices, was on the fence for so long. The first time i thought i might not vote. But because of the things he said he was going to do, and no other president four different president s said they e going to turn jerusalem make jerusalem the capital of come let you know, the embassy, he was the only president. Before other president s him said they would do it and never did it. Host cindy in chesapeake, virginia. For more on that exchange over the Supreme Court last night, we go back to pedro. By that exchange, the discussion about Abraham Lincoln, picking up some play on the political websites. One of them highlights a little bit of what the senator said about abe lincoln. They write this the Republican Party likes to remind people about him or a to doican, they like this about their talk about funding fathers. Absurd. Arison is during wednesday nights debate, mike pences attempt to create any revision for why the Republican Party should ram through a new Supreme Court justice after taking away obamas pick of Merrick Garland four years ago, with a Supreme Court filled with illegitimate judges. By highlight of the night senator harris with talked about the real history, im going on to talk about what she said about lincoln. If you go to the national review, the author also taking a look at honest abe. The headline Kamala Harriss dishonesty. He said that harris claimed that Abraham Lincoln refused to nominate a candidate for chief justice in october of 1864 because he did not think that was the right thing to do and want to the people to vote first. He says lincoln did not put a nominee because the senate was out of the session until december. He sent it a nominee a day after the session began and he was the next after day. Lincoln wanted them to campaign for him. His priority was winning the election, which was necessary to win the war, and he feels the vacancy at the first possible instinct. Kamala harris is simply inventing history. Host back to your phone calls. Donna in florida, on the line for those who support others. Caller thank you for taking my call. For interested in voting joe johnson because she is an alternative to the nonsense going on between the republicans and the democrats. It is really a tough situation. Trump will doat any better in the next four years. What about Social Security . Issues in theany air. Even if it is a lost about, i am voting for a libertarian. That is what i am going to do even if it is a lost vote. That is all i can say about it. Host for more on jo jorgensen. Libertarian nominee confronts hurdles is the headline on her campaign. They say that she is the first woman to win the libertarian partys president ial not campaigning as a toptier nominee. To hear more about her Campaign Efforts around the country, you can read the Washington Times. Josh on the line for those who support the biden harris ticket, go ahead. Caller i wanted to see more in the debate where more facts are proven. Like one Kamala Harris said that the republicans were riding the coattails of joe biden and the economy. People here President Trump speak and then a lot of ar pres. Trump speak and tell lies and then turn around and say he didnt lie. During these debates, whenever they speak, there needs to be something to pull up the fact, the truth, not just let them dodge the questions. Host there are plenty of news websites that do realtime Fact Checking. I wonder, do you think, are you saying that you want the commission on president ial debates to do that on the screen . You want the moderator to jump in and do that . Do you think it is the opposing candidates job to fact check . How would you structure that. Host one, they need to be able to have something the American People can see they need to be about to have something the American People can see. There is so much false information out there that the American People need to have them be accountable for what they say. So if they tell us something that is not true, journalists, somehow they can prove that. They have to prove what they are saying. Host that is josh in North Carolina. We are keeping pedro busy this morning as he works to respond to some of your phone calls. Pedro, what do you have on fact checks . Pedro some of the things that were said the candidates involved, the same thing with the Associated Press are taking a look at. Kamala harris on the coronavirus, the quote they had laid is the president said it was a hoax. The facts, according to them, misleading. Is she is referring to a Campaign Rally in South Carolina in which President Trump said the phrase the coronavirus, this is their new hoax. Wordsoader context of his show he was railing against the democrats for denunciations of the administrations coronavirus was once. The democrats are criticizing the coronavirus, he said at the rally. They are politicizing it. He talked about the messy democratic tremor in iowa, the russian investigation, then returning to the pandemic he said this is their new hoax. That is from the website necn. Then there is factcheck. Org taking a look at some of the things the president said last night. You referred to the swine flu. They write this morning, in defending his record on the pointed, hands lucidly misleadingly pointed to joes handling of the h1n1 pandemic. Quote, 7. 5 Million People contract of the swine flu, 60 million americans contracted this one for, he said. If the coronavirus had been lethal like it was in 2009 when biden was president , we would have lost many millions of lives. Many millions of americans contracted the swine flu but that is not comparable to the rock hound of americans infected with covid19, and it is precisely because the influenza pandemic was not a especially lethal that fewer precautions were taken to prevent infections. Host the Fact Checking industry was busy at last nights debates, Something Like the oscars for fact checkers. Plenty more toward washington journal today. Some clemente,emen california. Go ahead. Caller it was a highly entertaining debate. Maybe not quite as entertaining as the president ial debate, that was wild and interesting. The parents supporters are definitely going to get what they want. They think he pulled himself up and made his points. I think kamalas supporters thought she did a good job. What i am always watching is what the moderator does with it. I think it was josh from North Carolina, one of your previous callers, pointed out how he would want realtime Fact Checking or for the debate moderators to inject it or have it on the screen. I think some of the articles you need which are supposedly doing Fact Checking highlight the problems. You have a lot of punditry in Fact Checking. I thought the format was great. I thought the moderator should did not inject a lot of opinion or fact check. She was not out there injecting facts that are not facts. If any atssue a all, the time each candidate got was more or less about the same. Cnn politics sent of the candidates were within three seconds of each other in terms of speaking time. Host within two or three minutes, but your point is taken. Caller right, so you are the mustard in the fact that this depending on which site you got to, there are differences in speaking time. When you opened the segment, you said pence got more speaking minutes. Couple of another website said she got more speaking time a couple of minutes. And then cnn politics put her within a few seconds of him. Host the perils of Fact Checking. Caller it illustrates the point. The previous color from the carolina said if you are waiting for the fact checkers, i think the candidates can do it themselves. Obviously, we will all have our way with the data after the fact and you will decide who you will vote for. By realtime Fact Checking format. The i was very happy in fact, it was amazingly better than fox newss debate with Chris Wallace. It was atrocious the job he did. Host cannot ask you, when you started your comment can i ask you, you said you thought the debate was entertaining. Why did you use that word . Caller that is sort of what this is. I consider it a lie but i am sure people on the left buy it as truth. You watch these things and see how they play out, it is entertainment for ourselves. Host that was mark in california. This is mike also in california, undecided voter. Good morning. Caller good morning. All this talk of Fact Checking made me think of something that i wanted to mention, i have never seen them go deep on something, and i am referring to Kamala Harris going back to the District Attorneys Office when she was the head of the das office in 2010. There was that Crime Lab Scandal that joe biden referred to in their debate on july 31, 2019. He got it wrong, that nobody has ever done very deep into it, and 6001000 cases had to be dropped because there was an employee in the crime lab sniffing the evidence. There was a famous watergate line what did the president know and when did he know it. The name that has never come up was the fellow in the das office, whom she would have known for close to 20 years, because they went back to the Alameda County das office, a fellow by the name of russ f gentini. He resigned. He was someone she have a risk acted and recruited and was her number two person in the office and we are to believe that they never had a discussion of what she knew about the problems . Host you bring up an interesting point in a Vice President ial debate. How much should the Vice President ial candidates focus on each others specific records and history and how much they focus on the top of the ticket, how much should mike pence be focusing his attacks on joe biden or Kamala Harris on donald trump . Do you think the Vice President ial candidates balanced that last night . Caller in some ways, they were very respectful. I know that might sound silly, but they really were not attacking each other. If i am criticizing anybody right now, i am criticizing the press, and the fact that there was a Vice President ial debate gave me this excuse. You have to understand, i have been googling for the past 90 days the San Francisco Crime Lab Scandal, Kamala Harris, and i have never seen any more since been New York Times Washington Post, and wall street journal had a little bit of it at the time when the bidenharris democratic debate it just seems that she is a prosecutor. She never let anybody off the hook, but she seems to have gotten a free pass on this one i guess you could say the timing of this debate was a good excuse for me to call cspan and complain about this, because i have been waiting 90 days and have not been anybody in the press ever talk about it. And she is definitely going to be a heart beat away from the mr. Bidensiven age. Host that was mike in california. Alicia out of michigan support the biden harris ticket. Caller good morning. To bring up two comments. We know that the president is not responsible for the coronavirus. Lies inresponsibility not telling the truth, because if he had told the truth, more people would have been more cautious. 211,000why we have got people dead now. On the comment about the supreme tried to appoint a judge. And theocrats Republican Party wouldnt even let him do it. That is why he didnt put a judge in the Supreme Court. I just think for a lot of you voters who are undecided, what more does it take for you to decide . It is a nobrainer. That is it. Host switching to an undecided voter next, dawn out of raleigh, North Carolina. What do you think of the last question by the last caller . I was think that gearing my comment more toward the debate last night. Ahead. O caller as i was scoring it, i would score it at harris, 51 and pens, 49. Pence was undisciplined and i think harris was not forceful enough. Host what is an example of each one of those things . Lied by shaking his head to the negative when he knew that out of 50 judicial appointments, not one has been black, as harris pointed out. Harris was i think not forceful in the flat that when he asked her a question about packing the court, she should have pointed out to him that she was not there to answer his questions but to respond to the moderator. And when it comes to the moderator, i think susan page did a poor job as a moderator because she was not forceful in terminating his time when he went over his time. Then i think the elephant in the deadis 212,000 americans from covid19 and counting. Pence and the republicans continue to say the president did all he could. If all he could do was sit on whilends for two months, the pandemic was getting a really big foothold in this country, then that is not very much that a person can do. Host dawn in North Carolina. On your point, a couple of headlines on what you call the elephant in the room. The Washington Post saying the pandemic shaped all aspects of last nights debate. The Washington Times coronavirus heats up the debate harris. Biden and coming up on 8 00 a. M. Eastern this morning and getting your reaction to last nights debate, the 90 minute debate between Vice President pence and california senator Kamala Harris. On the phone lines, split up this way if you support the trumppence ticket, 2027488001 is the number. If you support the bidenharris 2027488000. A line for those who are undecided or if you are supporting assad ready candidate, if you are supporting a third party candidate, 2027488002 is a number. We are taking your calls throughout all three hours of washington journal this morning. Also getting some context and responses to some of your questions about the debate from our pedro chavarria. Pedro even after a night of debate, the candidates have to hit the campaign trail. They will focus on arizona. The Vice President heading to arizona today at an event that will take place at 2 30 this afternoon at a place called tyr tactical. He says the reports that he visited arizona last september where he made two Campaign Stops , it comes as the president is still recovering from contracting coronavirus. Mike pence in arizona as well as joe biden Kamala Harris going to that state. 5 00 this afternoon, the Campaign Announced that the democratic ticket is set to meet native American Tribal leaders before embarking on a soul of the nation bus tour. They will meet with Small Business owners in phoenix, arizona as well as tempe, arizona. Host taking your phone calls this morning in our second hour, and we will do it again in a third hour of the washington journal. From West Virginia on the trumppence ticket. Good morning. Caller good morning. All i seen was basically lies. Senator harris, basically she used that old trump called mexicans rapists that is the old lies. He said some. Because some of the women said they got raped coming across the border. , they leaveadd all out some. Also, no fracking. Also goes back to their andising to tax the rich forgive Student Loans remember the first two years of the obama administration, they promised all these things six immigration. They had two years a supermajority in the senate, no filibusters. None of this happened. They said they would unite the country. They are trying to divide the country. They spent four years trying to divide the country. Host david, are you still with us . Caller yes. Host did you want to finish her comment . Caller yes. They say they will unite the country. If you think they will unite the fool. Ry, you are a host our next caller supports the bidenharris ticket. Go ahead. Caller i will start off by saying that we, the people of the United States of the United States of america. It is we the people. As far as im concerned, donald trump did a very good job bringing us together as a people , ok . No matter what race, color, background, the menorrhagia come from, it is we the people and we all are suffering. It is not only black, white, we are all suffering. When it comes to doing something as a president , to me, he acts like a threeyearold instead of a president of the United States of america. I am ashamed. My children are ashamed to say he is our president. Address theo not people. You do not give people the right. He disrespects our veterans. He disrespects women. Biden disrespected last night the way he didnt. When she asked him to move on, he didnt. He didnt give, Kamala Harris time. She had to demand it. Host on the issue of divisions in this country and the issue of law and order, here is more from the Vice President ial candidates last night. [video clip] sit hereis i will not and be lectured by the Vice President on what it means to enforce the laws. I am the on the one on this stage who has personally prosecuted everything from child Sexual Assault to homicide. Bollywood on this stage who has prosecuted the big banks for taking advantage of american homeowners. I am the only one on this stage forpersecuted toxicologists taking advantage of our veterans. The reality is we are talking about an election in 27 days where last week the president of the United States took the debate stage in front of 70 million americans and refused to condemn White Supremacists. It wasnt like he didnt have a chance. He didnt do it, then he doubled down. Then he said when pressed, standup. Standby. Pattern oft of a donald trumps. He called mexicans racists and criminals. He instituted as his first act a muslim ban. On the issue of charlottesville, where people were peacefully protesting the need for racial justice, where a young woman was killed and on the other side there were near not carrying neo nazis carrying tiki torches and shouting racial epithets, antisemitic slurs, and donald trump when asked about it said there were fine people on both sides. This is who we have as president of the United States. America, you deserve better. Joe biden will be a president who brings the country together and recognizes the beauty in our diversity and the fact that we all have so much more in common than what the birds us. Let me give you a minute and the fact that we have much more in common than what separates us. I will give you a minute to respond. This is what makes you put dislike the media so much in this country, susan, that you selectively added, just like senator harris did, comments that President Trump and i and others on the other side of the aisle make. Senator harris omitted that after the president made comments on either side on the debate about money, he condemned the kkk, neo nazis, and White Supremacists and has done so repeatedly. Your concern that he doesnt condemn neo nazis, President Trump has jewish grandchildren. His daughter and soninlaw are jewish. This is a president who respects and cherishes all of the American People. You talk about having personally prosecuted. I am glad you brought up your record because i need to make this point when you were ada in synthesis, when you left when you were a da in office in San Francisco, african were 19 more times more likely to be prosecuted for drug offenses. The disproportionate incarceration of blacks in california, who did nothing on criminal Justice Reform in california, didnt lift a finger to pass the First Step Act in capitol hill. Your record speaks for itself. Host plenty more from last night debate and your reaction to last nights debate. Also trying to keep you on top of the latest breaking news this morning. For more return to pedro. The president is just back from the white house and just gone on fox business in an interview. This is being flashed up and here are some of the things interview. Rom the Kelly Odonnell from nbc reporting that when it comes to the change in the debate, a virtual format, he says, changing the debate format to virtual is not acceptable to us. I am not going to do a virtual debate. He said when it comes to his own condition and how he feels, he says i do not think i am contagious at all. Another reporter saying adding, i feel like i am better. I wanted to do a rally last night. To the first point as far as the president not to the debate, the interview is still taking place on fox business as we are doing this show. We will find out more and get back to you. Host taking your calls, todd is in michigan on the undecided line. Good morning. Caller good morning. What did i get from last nights debate . Not much. Just the same old diversion tactics. It barely touched on the stimulus. People care about putting food on their table, receiving unemployment when they cant find a job. These people are out of touch or completely apathetic and that is all it is about. Money talks. People are waking up. All these politicians are doing is creating revolutionaries and created a breeding ground for social anarchy in november, because it is going to happen. I am tired of all of these politicians. They need to be kicked out of office by force if necessary. Host shots taught in michigan on some of the issues. He brings up that was taught in michigan. Some of the issues he brings up, there is a new survey out of some 1500 voters, finding that 56 of respondents say they expect, quote, and increasing violence as a result of election 2020. Nearly 47 disagree with the idea that the election is likely to be fair and honest. 51 generally will not agree on who is the legitimately elected president of the United States. The online poll was conducted october 12. Next on the line for those who support the trumppence ticket. Caller hello. Good morning. My name is terrence. I have always been a democrat all my life, i am 56 years old. First time i voted i was 18 years old and i voted for a democrat. Since trump ran for election, i changed to republican. I am really not a republican, i am a trump supporter. I dont like much of the Republican Party. Obama turned me into a republican. The reason why we have trump is because of obama. As far as the debate last night, mike pence was masterful. Masterful. That is the only thing you can say. Kamala harris just talks. If anybody should be fact checked, it is Kamala Harris. She talked about prosecuting people for losing their houses to the banks. Issue would have done that, Steven Mnuchin wouldve secretary of the treasury. Everything out of Steven Mnuchin would not he secretary of the treasury. Everything that comes out of her mouth is a lie. She doesnt like black people. She is not black. I am a black american, a descendent of slaves obama was not. , the harris isnt Kamala Harris is not. The Republican Party refuses to. A person who was born in this country, whose ancestry comes from slavery in the position to be president the Democrat Party refuses to put a person who was born in this country and whose ancestry comes from slavery in position to be president. Host next caller, go ahead. Good morning. I am watching the debate and one of the things i did not gather was the covid relief bill and as to why it was stopped. I heard President Trump stopped dust stopped it because of all these unnecessary projects in there. These unrelated covid projects, i want to contrast and compare to this you see, President Trump was wrong when he said that joe biden did not accomplish anything. Joe biden was in charge of the 2009 stimulus package. And with that stimulus package, joe biden saw at the time that people allud were losing jobs ad houses with the housing issue that we had at the time, he 72ided that it started at than half million and an event being close to 34 million 17. 5 million and ended up being close to 34 million. Trump, joe biden did accomplish something. Just wanted to get that out there. I would like to invite President Trump to tour the grounds of the roosevelt house. This is what we can see what we got for 34 million. A book, you are doing reading festival, cspan, and i asked you at that time if you would walk around the grounds and take photos and share with us what was done. What we got. The contrast is that trump has worked, as far as i can see, he has been the hardest working person, standing up for the average joe. Host that was benny out of poughkeepsie, new york. For more about President Trump and next weeks president ial debate, the second president ial debate, we turn to pedro. Reporters are putting out tweets based on the interview the president is doing on fox business. Sayingtephen portnoy quote, the president says he was not informed in advance of the change by the commission of the debate format, adding that he will not participate virtually. He said, quote, i will not do a saying, that is not what debating is all about, calling it ridiculous. He is claiming the commission on the president ial debates is trying to protect joe biden. For his part, another report says that the Biden Campaign says they look forward to taking part in next weeks event. Quote, Vice President biden looks forward to speaking directly to the American People and comparing his plan for bringing the country and Building Back better. Host your thoughts on the states president ial debate. Florida, onksville, the land of those who support the bidenharris ticket, good morning. Caller hi. For all of trumps psychobabble about the media and all his winning in his persecution ironic, he could not exist without the media. He is the frankenstein monster of the media. He was created by the media. All i heard from pence was a bunch of speeches riddled with the same lies and spin. It is very sad and revealing. That huge fly past fresh garbage pence. P to hang out on the best case against democracy is a fiveminute conversation with the average voter. The framers of the constitution did not believe in universal suffrage. They supported white landowners being able to vote and that is only because in those days, they were the only ones who could read. So information is vital. It is no surprise many have a fox state news dedicated to dumbing down the voters on behalf of trump and his fellow republican con artists and hypocrites, you get people who are willing to vote for a guy who is trying to take over their health care during the greatest Public Health crisis in a century. Host steve in florida. This is carla on the undecided line in missouri, go ahead. Caller hello. Heard it be host it lets you know youre on the air. Caller oh, thank you. I love cspan. I am a cspan junkie, you are the last hope for mankind as far as im concerned. I will try to be brief. The first is about the virus. Seeone thing that i dont mentioned anywhere is, if you will recall, back in january, february, this virus landed and nobody, including scientists, did not know much about it. This whole response to it on the part of the scientists, the politicians come the doctors the politicians, the doctors has evolved. We know, there is a report every day on television, they kept changing their response to it. So i think people need to think about that. I am not for either side particularly. I have not decided, but i think we are not looking at this fairly. We keep learning more and more. Developing new treatments for it. I think people need to be patient. I wish bothoint is, parties would put their platforms forward. You dont really see a platform for either side. From either side. Why dont they have a list of things they are going to work on . We get these big ideas and vague promises. I am really getting tired of it. Thank you. Love cspan. Host thanks, carla. The is from florida on trumppence ticket. Caller i would like people to think back. To you remember isis cutting heads off . Everyday we saw it on tv. We dont see it anymore. Do you remember the illegals at the border . It looks like thousands of people rushing our border. Do you see that anymore . No. Do you see more people working . Yes. Do you see crimes by illegals in democratic sanctuary states . Yes. Do democrats care about us, no. The ucs paying less for nato do you see us paying less for nato and other countries . No. Biden has taken so much money from china. His son was investigated in the ukraine. I saw him on tv saying, i had the prosecutor fired that was looking into my sons affairs. I was holding up american money for the ukraine. And he was fired. It goes on and on. Trump tells the truth. Investigate it yourself. Think about the heads being cut off by isis everyday. Virtually gone now thanks to trump. Host on the issue of the Trump Administration, the u. S. Coalition fight against isis, here is more from Vice President mike pence last night. [video clip] when President Trump came to office isis had captured an area the middle east the size of pennsylvania. President trump unleashed the American Military and our armed forces destroyed the caliphate and took out their leader, albaghdadi, without one casualty. Albaghdadi was responsible for the death of thousands. hearts todaycans are with the family of kayla miller, the parents are tonight with us here in salt lake city. Two of the isis killers responsible for kayla millers martyr were brought to justice in the United States. Jihadi john was killed in the battlefield along with the other beatle. The reality is that when joe biden was Vice President , we had an opportunity to eighth kayla miller. It breaks my heart to reflect on it but the military came to the oval office and presented a plan. They said they knew where kayla was. Baghdadi had held her for 18 months and abused her mercilessly before they killed her. But when joe biden was Vice President , they hesitated for one month. When our armed forces finally went in, it was clear she had been moved to the days earlier, and her family says with a heart that broke the heart of every american, that if President Donald Trump had been president , they believe kayla would be alive today. Host that was Vice President last night on the debate stage in utah. For more, we turn back to pedro. More coming out from this foxbusiness interview. During the quest of the interview, the president the longer saying it was hoped hicks who caught covid from a soldier. Suggesting maybe it was him. A remainder that he created the perception that should give it to him when it was more likely the other way around or they both caught it from someone else. Another report saying that during the interview, the president blamed the military for the illness just like he been to them when his diagnosis was reported. He said. Many people want to hug him during events and he cant tell them no. When it comes to the rose garden event with the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett, the president saying to fox business, seemingly winning the origin of the white house outbreak of 30 plus people now on that event. Newsy morning. We continue to hear from bureaus around the country. The phone lines are split up this way if you support the , bidenharris ticket, 2027488000. 2027488001 if you support the trumppence ticket, 2027488001 are undecided or support a thirdparty candidate. It is coming up on 8 30 on the east coast. Manhattan, kansas, our next color supports joe biden. Go ahead. Caller i wanted to talk about Climate Change effects in the heart of america. Did ak Kamala Harris great job of explaining her view on that. An area located in the sun hills of kansas and they do a lot of research to do with nature and conservancy at kansas state university. Centered in one of the most reductive grass prairies of north america most productive, tall glass prairie. On climateearch variability. One of the research that has come out is that as temperatures go up, plans are getting warmer and causing the grasses have less protein and reducing the nutritional quality. This could lead to a smaller bison and cattle, affecting farmers and our food supply. Host bring us back to the being issue brought up and Climate Change. Caller ok. I am just concerned about how the next president and congress will address Climate Change and its effect on farmers. I hope questions on Climate Change will be asked at the next debate especially in regard to how they affect the farmers in the heart of our nation. Because it does have an impact on the feeding of the nation of the world. So i just want to hear from the candidates more about that at debate. Host at this point we are not sure if there will be a next debate, the president indicating on foxbusiness this morning apparently that he is not interested in participating in a virtual debate. For more, we go back to Pedro Echevarria. Youre absolutely right, now the Trump Campaign with a statement on what you just talked about. From theow it reads Campaign Manager on trump 2020, saying President Trump won the first debate despite a terrible and biased moderator in Chris Wallace, and everyone knows it. From the swamp creatures at the president ial Debate Commission to no rush to joe bidens defense by unilaterally canceling an in person debate is pathetic. That is not how debates are done. Here are the facts. President trump will have posted multiple negative tests prior to the debate so there is no need. The safety of all involved could be achieved without canceling a chance for voters to see both candidates go headtohead. We will pass on this sad excuse to bailout joe biden and do a rally instead. Closed quote. Host getting reaction from you this morning. Here are a few of your comments from twitter. Trump doesnt want people talking about hands. He is dying for attention. She had saidby trump would weasel his way out of a second debate and he just did. Mary saying that the debate people are trying to protect biden from the trump virus. Looking for your comments and reaction to that news and also to the Vice President ial debate. This is dee in oregon on the line of those who support the bidenharris ticket. Are you with us . Caller yes, i am. I support biden. Biden and harris. I dont support trump at all because he is a liar and has been a liar. I have been following him for years and years and years. Just disgusted me for years now. Most of the people voted for a tv personality. It was a fake personality to start with. Show, what washe it called, the apprentice with the burnett, it ran for a year. It was never meant to be more than that. The show went downhill and they took it off the air. He kept calling burnett and him, w number one. He said, no, it is not. Host fast forward to 2020 for me. Caller he keeps lying just like he did then. He says now that he is winning, he is going to win the vote no, he is not. Out of oregon. Ee rodneys next out of brooklyn, on the undecided line. Caller thank you for taking my call. I am just so disappointed in both debates. I think the monitors got caught up in injecting themselves. I dont care about their questions. I want to hear what the candidates are talking about, i want them to challenge their statements. I want to hear the rebuttals. I dont want to have them start the process and then the monitor interject themselves because they have to ask another question. We are not getting the information that we need because the monitors are bigger than life. I know they are good people, they are smart, but they have become part of the debate and they are not supposed to be. You have a select few who can do that. But the monitor has to take a step back and let them debate the issues so we can find out who is more credible. So we can find out who is more realistic in their ideas. Both candidates are going to say they are the best. Ok. Challenge. Let me hear why. If you cannot get that i have to as the nest question, or the manager has to ask a question after two minutes it is ridiculous. That is all i have to say. Thank you. Host john out of turtle creek, pennsylvania on the lens for those who support the trumppence ticket. Go go ahead. Caller everybody should pray for everybody in this country who is suffering from covid, and lets get this over with and out of our system. The point i would like to make about the debate last night is going back to recent history, there was a candidate named john kerry that ran for president , and one of the problems that john kerry had was that he would say things and then he would flipflop on them and they called him a flipflopper. The media picked up on that back then. We have a different media now. They are so deep into getting trump out and electing a democrat, that nobody is pointing out that both of these candidates, biden and harris, are the biggest flipfloppers i have ever seen. They say one thing and then they go on a debate and say another. They say one thing and then they go out and campaign and say another. I hope the American People will wake up. I hope young people in this country will investigate what i am saying and look into that because you do not want somebody in office that cannot make up their mind. If they do the things they are flip flopping on, it will run this country into the ground, what i think cspan needs to pay a little more attention to the papers coming out by radcliffe thisse i have been calling show for years since trump has been in office, and i have warned the democrats that this went all the way up to the top with obama and it did because now we have the pers. Host that was john in pennsylvania. This is frank out of alabama on the line that supports others. Go ahead. Caller good morning. I am so loud you guys are leading with real context. It is not the fly on the wall, but the fly on the Vice President s head, and that is ridiculous for black people particularly in birmingham, alabama, that they would be so deep into obfuscation with these meanings. For one, i am so exhausted with the whole process as it relates to these debates. There are 2 Million People in america, and less than 200 Million People in america and less than 90 million are people of color. These debates are not for black and Indigenous People in this country. Power as far as im concerned and that is the power of the writing. That was the first legible that was used to elect the president. Host who are you writing in this year . Caller i will be writing in the person who has a black agenda for america, benjamin carr. I will be launching a writing campaign. I have invested in a 23,000 bus, getting it wrapped, and Indigenous People of color need to use derided, and millions of votes that demonstrate the bulk of these twoparty systems that we are not voiceless because the right and gives us a voice, so i am pushing from tallahassee, for to come starting saturday, all over florida, advocating the writing that it comes to focus and not just making it like the fly on pences head. Host how long will you be out on the road with that bus . Caller i will be out on the road with my shuttlebus until the election is over, november 3, because i just think that lesscularly, the 8 million Indigenous People of color who make up this country need another alternative. Just think about everybody anding about this and that, 2000 people who had vote in names in florida, and we would not have had to deal with it. I am advocating if youre going to vote, please writein your president ial selection so we will not have to worry about delineating who you voted for. Host that is frank in alabama this morning on his campaign for rightin votes. The candidates are back out on the campaign trail. Today, both candidates, Vice President pence headed to. , arizona, and former Vice President joe biden and Kamala Harris also headed to phoenix and tempe today as part of their campaign. Both campaigns one team their Television Ads in battleground states in battleground in battleground states. This is Forbes Magazine reporting that after suspending negative advertising when the president tested positive for coronavirus last week, the Biden Campaign said wednesday it would resume its negative spots following the president s return to the white house. The Biden Campaign confirmed to forbes in the process of bringing positive and negative spots into television adding, our campaign has always been about making a positive case for joe biden, because there is a stark difference between their reasons for the country, according to a campaign spokesperson. You can find that at forbes. If you go to the kxxv in waco, texas, website, they have a story about texas being a new interest place for joe biden. Spend 6anned to million from now until election day in the lone star state. You can find that on their website. When when it comes to the trump theirgn, they will slash campaigning budget in the midwest. He has been off the local in iowa andpletely ohio, and the campaign has given up at least 2 million worth of reservations in michigan and wisconsin since early september. In minnesota, a state trump almost won four years ago, and has expressed confidence in slipping, it seems he has chopped 5 million from the Fall Television budget. That it when it comes to the topic of ads. On videos themselves, the president returning to the white house from walter reed. He had reports that he was in the oval office briefly. He also had time to make a video that he posted on his twitter feed. [video clip] President Trump perhaps you recognize me, it is your favorite president. I am standing in front of the oval office at the white house, it is always an exciting place to be. I got back a day ago from walter reed medical center. I spent four days there. Wouldnt have to. I could have stayed at the white house, but the doctor said because you are president , lets do it. I said, fine, you tell me what to do and i will listen. These are great professionals. They have done a fantastic job. Not only at walter reed it all over the country we have the greatest doctors and nurses, the greatest first responders, law enforcement, by the way, incredible. Firefighters. Everybody. They are great. We have great people. This is a great country. I spent four days there, and i went in and i was not feeling so hot. Period of time, they gave me regeneron. Other things, too, but i think this is the key. They gave me regeneron, and it was unbelievable. Immediately. I felt as good three days ago as i do now. Host there is more to that video. It runs five minutes in length, so if you would like to see the whole thing, go to the twitter feed. That video conard response from joe biden garnered a video response from joe biden directly. He was asked by the press in delaware about the video. That thea tragedy president deals with covid like it is something not to be worried about. 210,000 people have died. I think it is a travesty. [indiscernible] say again. [indiscernible] i have no idea, and i never comment on the president s mental health. Im not qualified to comment on it. Thanks. Host we are just over halfway through our Washington Journal Program this morning. Here is Situational Awareness about where we are today. We thought we would be talking about the Vice President ial debates for the full three hours of our program, but plenty of news this morning. It started with a news release from the commission on president ial debates, announcing that the next townhome debate, the one that takes place october 15 in miami, that will take the form of a virtual debate. The way they laid it out in the news release this morning that the two participants, the president and former Vice President joe biden, where to participate from separate, remote locations. The town hall participates and moderators would be in the same location, the initial location, the adrian arts center for the performing arts in Miamidade County. News to caused more trump inrom president an interview on foxbusiness saying he is not interested in participating in a virtual debate. The Biden Campaign saying they would participate in that format. We are talking about all of that this morning, taking your phone calls. Also would still like to hear from you if you want to talk about last nights Vice President ial debate. To help wrap this up, we are joined by cspans Pedro Echevarria. Host just on what you said about the state of the debate that theyre going to take place, the chairman of the commission on president ial debates released a statement after hearing the news about what the president and what you relate about with the president said, no president ial candidate is required to debate. Jimmy carter refused to debate in 1980. It is up to the individual candidate. What that means as far as the format going forward, there is no indication. If you go to the website at debates. Org, the commission on president ial debates, Frank Kirchhoff is the chair. They are in charge of putting on all of the debates. You can find out more formats and the like at debates. Org. Host with all of that, back to calls. One caroline and washington, d. C. Come on the line for those who support Vice President joe biden and senator harris. Go ahead. Caller thank you so much for taking my call. Regarding the news this morning, i think virtual or in person debates, there are so many pressing issues that the American People want to hear from these candidates. This is my first time calling in, and i feel passionately that Climate Change needs to stay at the forefront of the conversation. Vice president pence kept saying that climate is changing as it was going to go back to normal, and not deflecting to talking about taxes, we need to hear about specific policies from both candidates. Host caroline ndc mike is in caroline in d. C. The is an supportive president and Vice President pence. Caller i will touch on a couple of things. The moderator last night did a better job than Chris Wallace did. How do you moderate a catfight . I think that a debate should be conducted, as you are doing right now, not a moderator, but thecertain things that American People want asked. A little more common. A little more honesty in the reporting would help this nation a whole bunch. We are never going to hear the actual truths of what goes on in government. Because a lot of it should not be disposed. Honestot of it should be , common sense, reporting on honesty. Host that next president ial debate, the one set to take place on the 15th in miami, it is going to be that format you are talking about. It is the town hall format, undecided voters invited to ask their questions of the candidates. We are hearing President Trump saying he is not interested in participating if it is a virtual format and he cannot physically be there and joe biden cannot physically be there. Do you think that is a good idea by the president cannot participate if it is a virtual president to not participate if it is a virtual format . Caller i think he should participate on a regulated basis. Where favor of a format that would Favor One Party or the other. Undivided,o get this and the only thing that will straighten up our country is term limits. People are sitting in congress too long. I am 78 years old, and i cannot keep up with today. The day. I think term limits would help our congress a whole bunch. And people like nancy pelosi and joe biden, if the records were checked, then the American People need to use some common sense about what they are thinking about. President trump is not the nicest guy, not the smoothest guy in the world. He is just straightforward like you and i. Promises made, promises kept. My grandfather raised me and was a diehard democrat. He is taking the heck out of his coffin right now trying to get out because he used common sense. He would choose who has done right for this country. Host that was mike in indiana. We will head back to florida in Fort Lauderdale with laura on the line for those who support others. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thank you taking my call. Host appreciate you calling in. Go ahead. Caller well, about the debate last night, i did not think it was any different than any other. It was mostly vitriol and of course each party had each candidate had his and her own opinions. Could look at the camera and live. Have not beent, i swayed so far by these debates. I think they are pretty useless. I intend to vote for jo jordgensen and i have been a lifelong republican. Not always voting republican, but i think it is time that the two major parties understood that there are alternatives out there. You thatmeone tells you are throwing your vote away, voting for a libertarian or one of the other alternative parties, do not fall for that. You are not. You are using your voice to Say Something to the other two parties. That is all i have. Nn out of elmore, ohio, supports the bidenharris ticket. Go ahead. Go ahead, lynn. Turn down yourto television and stick by your phone. This is earl out of orlando, florida. Good morning. Caller good morning. We are taking our eye off the ball and everyone is missing the elephant in the room. ,e have a Coronavirus Crisis and the question that needs to be asked, the hard question that needs to be asked of the candidates, both of them, is this regeneron, remdesivir, treatment that the president used, is that going to be available tomorrow . Mississippimeone in in a convalescent home, fighting the coronavirus, struggling to live and survive, can we rollout the drugs to finally put an end to the death toll . The death toll of thousands of people dying past to slow and stop has to slow and stop. But the president telling us we have a cure, and no one is pressing from joe bidens side, and i am torn on who to vote for because i want my son to visit his grandparents, but i cannot because i dont know if im going to if him coronavirus, my father, my mother. I do not want my son to get this. Nobody is asking the hard questions. Can we become americans again and defeat this virus with what the president is saying is a cure . That is all i have. Host the president in that video message outside the oval office. We show you a little of it earlier in the program, and talked about his treatment. Talked about his hopes to have the treatment available to americans for free as part of that fiveminute video he put out yesterday. You were talking about the numbers when it comes to cases in this country. Now is the latest total, over seven point 5 million coronavirus cases in the United States. The total death toll, 211,000 and counting. Yesterday, that number released, 865 americans died yesterday from coronavirus. This is amy in christopher, illinois, on the line for those who support the bidenharris ticket. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Caller as far as the debate goes, how can you defend trump . How this country ever elected a bully in the first place. He is a sexist, attention starved excuse for a man. He made fun of a disabled reporter. Pathetic. I am disabled. He gets treatment no one else would get for the coronavirus and then mocks the disease. That is all i have to say. Host in the line for those undecided in this election, this is lisa out of texas. Good morning. Caller good morning. Good morning. Host go ahead, lisa. Caller i felt the debate was very good. Kamala harris handled herself well. She answered questions. E try tohat mr. Penc override her, but he did not get by with very much. A lot of people call in undecided because they do not want loved ones or people they know to know who they are voting for, but i will say that i pray a change comes soon. America cannot continue to go the way it is going. All these people calling in about the stimulus, all they have to do is watch or read the news. Debatemp had stopped the , you know, the agreements on the stimulus, just start watching the news. Do not listen to what people say. Watch what they are doing. Host that is lisa in texas this morning. Some more reaction from our viewers on twitter to the news this morning that President Trump is not interested in participating in a virtual debate, after the commission on president ial debates announced this morning, the october 15 debate, would be a virtual debate. Yes we can on twitter writing much safer to hold virtually so the war does not escalate. It clearlyaying, benefits biden, who has been living as a virtual creature in his basement. They have now created a serious controversy. For more on the news of the morning, we turned to Pedro Echevarria. Onro during that interview foxbusiness, the president talked about some of his cabinet appointees. This is alan smith reporting on what the president said. Trump on his own administration officials, when it comes to the fbi director, he has been disappointing. The attorney general, william barr, will go on as the greatest ag or a sad situation if he charges opponents. Mike pompeo saying i am not happy about him for not revealing additional Hillary Clinton emails. There was a New York Post reporting on the director of National Intelligences decision and an action he made yesterday, saying he made available to the Justice Department a cash of records into the investigation of russias role in the 2016 election after President Trump pushed for swift release of such documents, it is about eight foot tall binder, hundreds and hundreds of papers, a source said, made available to the doj immediately, and they must cross washington to review the material on site, located in virginia. In a statement on wednesday, he said it has provided almost 1000 pages to the department of justice in response to the connecticut u. S. Attorney request. More on that if you would like to read that on the New York Post. That garnered reactions from the capitol hill. The help reporting on that the hill reported on that, urging them to take a number of steps. She is a former c. I. A. Officer and former special assistant for the director of National Intelligence and points to serious concerns over radcliffes decision last month to declassify letters fighting unverified russian intelligence that claim to Hillary Clinton approved a plan to stir up scandal against President Trump during her 2016 residential campaign. She went on to say, recently classified intelligence that the community cannot cooperate as a part of a paired effort to undermine the past assessments of an analyst. Press reports indicate you release the information despite concerns for your ship of both intelligence agencies and the National Security agency. Host Pedro Echevarria with us on a busy news morning as we continue to take your phone calls. Sarah has been waiting in North Carolina, the line for those who support the bidenharris ticket. Go ahead. Caller good morning. How are you doing . Host im doing well, sarah. Caller the reason why i am going to vote for biden and i support them is because people that are underprivileged and who have children are at home doing this remote school. They cannot go to school. Away fromthe stimulus people who lost their jobs, and they are losing their homes. With trump, everything he does is alive. He does not care about us or the poor people who did not have as much, and then he comes down with the virus. I dont think that is real, within all the people dying from it are saying in quarantine and he is only a few days and then he gets out and rides away like he is mocking us. Not the best,is which i do believe they are, it is better than trump. He just needs to get out of the white house. He is literally killing them, and one thing about when this virus came, and i cannot even go and visit. I cannot be with them. And then one of my cousins died, and we had to stand out in the a farewell to her. It makes me sick to my stomach, where trump debate, does not respect women. He does not respect anybody, calling people out by names and stuff, and then route. He was rude, and even with the debate last night, hence did the same thing pence did the same thing. It is rude. It is time for a change to be made. Host that was sarah North Carolina. This is lower out of st. Joseph, missouri. Caller good morning. Supporter. Ppence i have been since the first election. I thought the debate was ok last night. I am very concerned about harris. The way she carried herself was beyond me. She lied throughout the whole thing. For the democrats to blame President Trump for this virus is beyond any americans mindset. It is crazy how they can blame the president for something that china did. China did this. Them from coming in and out but got reprimanded from the lefties. He got down from the lefties for shutting down china because it is feeding their pockets and still feeding their pockets and as far as Kamala Harris, she is the one that has downed the black african communities in the United States and has put away a women the african men and for petty crimes. They are cricket individuals for themselves. This is melissa, las vegas, nevada. Undecided. Caller good morning. I was a registered democrat, but i have not decided whether i will vote this election. My decision would be made easier if biden or harris just give an honest, straightforward answer, to anything they are asked. It feels like i am just getting sick and tired of hearing disabled, selfserving speeches to every question asked. To the real to get situation of the debates or it is a waste of time. I have to agree with President Trump that saying president ial debates should have to be in person. A persontoperson debate. Otherwise, we will just get no answers and just selfserving speeches. Host a few more viewer comments on this issue of a virtual debate and President Trump saying he would not participate. This is robert same trump rejecting a virtual debate is blame. He is afraid he cannot bully effectively longdistance. This from jim at gaston, saying while you may view a virtual bar exam as the same thing, i do not. Ted saying the debate is virtual because nobody wants no covid from trump. This is george out of calamus, ohio, supports the bidenharris ticket. Out of columbus, ohio. Supports the bidenharris ticket. Caller how are you today. Host busy day, but go ahead. Caller as i stated, yes, my name is george and i am with the Political Affairs with the board and project. We advocate for passing legislation towards global and address trump with legislation we have right now, such as emergence emergency responses to covid19, the last was less than half percent of the package in mark to fight covid19. We are seeking to have the increase to 20 billion and unfortunately, this is not been to any avail or success and potentially winning the new election with biden and harris, what are their plans to provide for and domestic a during the pandemic . And if not, for trump and his campaign, what are their plans for trying to increase the budget to provide for american citizens and foreign aid, which would also contribute to boosting the economy . Host the folks over there at the Borgen Project, do you want to explain what your group is . Caller yes, so what the Borgen Project is is a Bipartisan Organization that works toward eliminating global poverty. We are also based out of seattle, washington. We have a number of spokespeople around america, and i am located in columbus, ohio. We advocate for trying to have key legislations past, such as the International Affairs budget, emergency funding of covid19 global response, and so on and so forth. We are interested in seeing with the plans are for new administrations and having them passed. Host that is george in ohio. This is chris in texas on the line for those who support the trumppence ticket. Caller good morning. I watched the debate last night, and i have to say i think pence did a really good job. I think harris kind of avoided all the questions that the American People wanted to know, like banning fracking. That is something that would put my husband out of a job and millions of other oil workers. Harris the slander that had to give the administration wasy or im sorry, pences wasted having to continually defend themselves over the president saying the virus was a hoax that has been debunked. He did not say that. It is clips of liberal media slamming him. He has never ever once made fun of our military and called them losers. There is also a military veteran that was a burn victim that they are using his picture that he is so against, and he keeps asking repeatedly to stop using his because he knows his president did not say these liess and just a flat out the coronavirus. Our president shut down this country. He was called a xenophobic, a racist. The numbers under obama in 2009 for the swine flu, 60. 8 billion people contracted that flu. 274,000 americans died of it. I do not understand how the American People forget these things, and they actually blame a leader of a country for all the deaths in this country. He is only going by the guidelines of what the cdc and the h w has told him. Host that was chris in texas this morning. If you are just joining us, it is after 9 00 a. M. On the east coast. Here is where we are at the start of the day, getting your reaction to the Vice President ial debate last night, and then plenty of news breaking this morning. First coming from the commission of president ial debates, the townhall one, on october 15 in miami will be a virtual debate. Here is how it works. President trump and former Vice President joe biden in separate, remote locations. The townhall disciplines and moderator, cspans steve scully, would be located in the adrian arts center or the performing arts in Miamidade County in miami. That was the announcement this and President Trump city is not interested in participating in a virtual debate. We heard from the biden camp that said they wanted to continue to participate in a virtual debate. Helping us track all of news is cspans Pedro Echevarria. About cnbc reported Unemployment Benefits, same firsttime claims for Unemployment Benefits totaled 840,000 last week, higher than expected. And the spike in job growth has cooled over the year. Economists were surveyed by dow jones, expecting 825,000 new claims. The president on that box Business Report took a party and talking about the coronavirus foxBusiness Report to copart in talking about that question, putting a stop to direct negotiations and trying to and hecertain industries spoke about the current states of the talks. [video clip] President Trump there were shut talks two days ago because they were not working out, but now they are starting to work out. We are having productive talks. And she wanted to happen, too. I believe she wants it to happen because it is so good for our country because we really needed. Pedro that full interview is available on foxbusiness if you want to see that. Cnbc does have a story this morning on what happens if there is no stimulus relief and particularly when it does for Unemployment Benefits on the state level. The headline to show you is Unemployment Benefits may just pay five dollars a week without that deal, adding that on average, states pay 305 a week, about 200 plus tax for some paid less. Mississippi and louisiana paid 720 dollars a month, the lowest average among the states. Some workers will get less. States pay within a range between a minimum and maximum which varynt, significantly. You can find it on the cnbc website. Host with all of that, we are doing what we do best, hearing from you this morning, getting your reaction. Whether you want to talk about the Vice President ial debate last night, it may or may not happen for this next virtual president ial debate or any of the other issues we have talked about this morning. Phone lines, here is how to call in, 202 7488000 if you are a bidenharris supporter. 202 7488001 if you are a trumppence supporter, and then a full line for those who are undecided for thirdparty supporters, that is 202 7488002. Do not forget our text line, that number, 202 7488003. If you send us a text, please include your name and where you are from. Sam is from wilmington, North Carolina, on the line for those who support the bidenharris ticket area good morning. You are next. Caller good morning. I have three points to make. The promises made, promises kept night,e comments last they wanted to repeal and replace the aca. They have not done it. They are saying that with the next term they are going to have system toalth care offer the people, but what happened to the last three years . I dont get it. As far as the border is concerned, they have five new miles, otherwise 300 miles were replacements. They were not new miles. And they never got mexico to pay. Now the virus. The virus, you have got crowds, new masks. Rally,ey go to tulsa they had to sign a waiver so they cannot sue if they got the virus. That was in march. Now you go all the way up to what are we in . September . October . Host it is october already. Caller yes or. Yes sir. Leaderre still is not a putting the mask on. For amy s thing the new dachshund line host amy barry covert Amy Coney Barrett. Caller thank you. And a huge crowd, and it shows how the virus can pass. You see where people are sitting thethe people that got virus, including the president , said they were not following social distancing, they were not wearing masks. And people got the virus. I think it is going to show up more. Half of his staff has the virus ok, that is an exaggeration, but there are several many people that have the virus. Host ok, sam in North Carolina this morning. Judy is out of rochester, New Hampshire, on the line for those undecided. Go ahead. Caller hi. Thank you for taking my call. I was listening to pedro, and i have to say for the unemployment , in my area, you can drive up and down the road, and there are a help wanted signs all over the place, paid 12 to 15 an hour, and they cannot get people to work. I also wanted to make a statement about the stimulus. Our senator jeannie shaheen, her husband has a huge Lawyer Office here in New Hampshire, and in maine. He got almost 2 million on that stimulus program. His daughter, one of his daughters, got 840,000, and the other got 22,000 and some odd hundred dollars. So we wanted to make those statements about who is really getting the money. I am a Small Business owner. Did i get it . No, i am too small. Host duty, was this from the New Hampshire papers . Is that we saw the reporting on the stimulus and senator shaheens family . Caller it was a democratic paper, so they gave the listing of what he had gotten and his family. Another thing i wanted to comment about was nancy pelosi is dancing in the street with the china virus and makes the comment, come on down, it is all a hoax, and from day one, it was the democrats were calling it a hoax, not trump. It was the democrats who said it was a hoax. Cspan, i love you dearly, but, i really do think when people call in, and a statement is false, you need to correct them. Otherwise, people who really do not follow the news, they think it is true. You should correct them on the spot. Host that is judy in New Hampshire. This is william in redington, florida. Caller good morning. How are you . Host i am doing alright, go ahead, william. Caller thanks for taking the call. I have been watching cspan the last month or so, and it is in,ing the people that call especially the democrats, that have never studied history. If they would just go back to after the civil war, they would find that the democrats established the ku klux klan. Blacere they are, the poor ks, and i think they should have case,hing, but in any back then, the ku klux klan was killing blacks and republicans. Understand history. Host that was william in florida. This is very out of dallas, texas, on the line for those who support the bidenharris ticket. Caller thank you. Barry out of dallas, texas, on the line for those who support bidenharris ticket. Caller thank you. They cut me off. Host i did not cut you off. Go ahead. Caller this is my thing, they have a deal out there that ala harris put out, and oh, ok, they were bid out, that Kamala Harris put out, but it never came back out. Host what is the bill about . For likebill was host it was for what . Caller 2000 for six months. And then the Kamala Harris will. Host that is barry in texas. This is alexa in springfield, missouri, for those who support the turnpike and pence ticket. Good morning trumppence ticket. Good morning. Caller thanks for taking my call. Last night i did watch the v. P. Debate, and just their life,ation, as we say in actions speak louder than words. I noticed that harris, senator very i thinkaking whileacial expressions pence. Was speaking fortunate pence was speaking. Fortunately, pence was not affected by it. I think she is an embarrassment. No matter what she said last but even ifnothing, she socalled scored points on anything, just sitting there, making rude facial expressions, such as rolling her eyes and things like that, while pence was speaking, and here she is on the National Stage and in some Ways International because we are being watched around the is about toere she senator,rs old, and a and a running mate for the v. P. Position, and yet, she is sitting there on stage making, rudenow, i think very and ignorant facial expressions. Host that is alexa. For more on points and point scoring when it comes to the polls right now, we go back to Pedro Echevarria. Pedro how does the president feel about polls . Glad you asked because that was one of the discussion points he foxbusiness interview. Here is a portion. [video clip] President Trump i cannot get sentences out. [indiscernible] do you not believe these polls . President trump i do not believe the polls because we have never had this much support. They have thousands of tracks all over the country. I saw one in my neighborhood. Pres. Trump i dont believe them, maria. I dont believe the polls. They were worse the last time. I had one last time and i was nine down in nine different states, and i won all of them. In nine states i was down. Big ones. I won everyone of them. The polls are rigged, just like the reporters. We have a very dishonest media. Yet. Yep. Pedro that is from foxbusiness. Onnnipiac has put a lookout battleground states, the University Poll of likely voters, taking a look at some of the state snapshots when it comes to florida. Joe biden with a lead of 51 over the president at 40 . Pennsylvania, joe biden with 54 , trump at 41 . In iowa, going throughout the state, biden taking 50 and trump at 45 . Also, that senate race they are looking at with joni ernst with greenfield, her challenger at 50 and joni ernst at 45 . We are not only looking at the president ial race. It is the state of the senate after this paul alexion. To that display after this fall election. You can find that at quinnipiac. The Washington Examiner put up a poll looking at this idea of courts which we have gone through the morning in the morning, saying that over 60 of participants, the public, opposes passing the Supreme Court with liberal judges in the event that the court is expanded, adding that if the Supreme Court is expanded, 11 of voters wanted it to be overwhelmingly liberal, compared to 47 would like to see it balanced. Only one in three registered voters are in favor to expand the Supreme Court in order to install a liberal majority. There is more to that polling, as well, if you want to find it at Washington Examiner. Host we return to your calls. John, palmetto, florida, undecided. You are next. Caller thank you for taking my call. I am truly an undecided voter. I believe in universal health care for everyone in the United States, and i dont think that has been addressed. I believe a lot of things of what President Trump says, too. I think we have to have law and order. I have friends who live in europe, and they have not been to a Movie Theater since this whole thing started, and they have people dying in all of these countries, too. Extremely distressing for me as a person and as an immigrant who owns a Small Business that i truly believe the issues need to be addressed by both parties. I think there is a lot of just noise that goes on on both sides, and i really want this country to come together. I really do not understand why the issues are not being addressed. As far as this virtual debate to have ahey want virtual debate, it should be up to the candidates. So if President Trump wants to go down to miami and stand on the stage, and the moderator is willing to go down there, and the people that are asking the questions are willing to sit there, because lots of people are willing to ask questions. I would be happy to ask questions myself. If joe biden does not want to go down there and wants to do it virtually, let him do it virtually. Who cares . I want to hear how theyre going to make our country better because i really am tired of the noise. That is my comment. John, after the november election, do you think there was going to be less noise . Caller no. By the one disturbed to impeach president s. I am really disturbed either one team to impeach president s wanting to impeach president s. I think it is important for people to read the constitution and understand. Coming to america, even though my father was american, but coming to america, i thought it was important i should understand it. There have been 11,000 attempted amendments to the constitution, and they do not go through easily. Appointesident gets to or nominate for the Supreme Court. Every one of them. And if they have the votes in the senate and get past, it moves forward. This is something that is continually in flux, whether democrats or republicans. Changes, and the constitution is a living and evolving creature and has a life of its own. Host john, how would you feel about the court growing past nine justices . Caller well, if you are asking me what is fair, if we have nine justices now, and so what happens . So, the democrats get voted in, 50, so in twoit years, a lot of people are upset again, and it changes the balance, and they are all voted out, so what do we have 25 . In the next time we have 30 or 35 . Suddenly we have 100 . We need to have a Supreme Court justice for every senator. No, we need one for every congressman because this is an everett a never ending cycle. It is time for people to say, you know what . The justices make the best decisions according to the law. That is the key to the solution. It is not what side is voted for, but that you vote in accordance to the constitution the way it is written and how you interpret it that way to defend everybody in this country. Separation. There is you have separation from the president to the congress to the Supreme Court. Host thanks for the call. This is anna out of connecticut on the line for those who support the bidenharris ticket. Caller good morning at thank you. And thank you. I am a democrat and i noticed that mr. Pence did not look very well to me. This is not a criticism, i am just wishing him well. He had a red eye and his mouth had a little thing on the side. I just wish he was ok. The video you keep showing us of the president , i noticed that there is no date. I am looking for a date on the top of that screen. Some of us are older and trying to follow this reality show he is putting on for the world. Host which video are you talking about, him returning to the white house on monday . It. Er there is no date on that when you are showing today where where we should take this drug. Host the president yesterday out a five minute video standing outside the oval office area he talked about his treatments and said he was doing well oval office. He talked about his treatments and talked about a lot of issues over five minutes. That was tweeted from the president s account yesterday. This is molly out of rockville, maryland, undecided. Caller good morning. I am calling because i am one of those people who is like i guess there is one issue that always sticks out to me. In this cycle, i think it is science and im in denial. Painful to watch last night when the moderator did not push pence when he was spewing lies about science and the climate. And with the pandemic going on, i feel like these debates need to continue to focus on science. We are seeing what happens when we dont listen, and between the pandemic and the climate crisis, i am just so frustrated to see that no one is Fact Checking the Vice President and president when they are spewing these lies , and just hoping that in a virtual debate, there will be Fact Checking and they will push the president to make the connection that Climate Change actually is manmade, and we need to address it now. Host molly, you are calling in on the undecided line. Are you undecided . Caller i am undecided well, i lean towards paris and biden biden and harris because they do actually address it. Theed to hear more from president and Vice President if they want my vote. Host that is molly. This is karen in North Carolina, supports President Trump and Vice President pence. Go ahead. Caller all of your calls are great, but i do not see anything wrong with pence. So the elderly woman who called earlier, she needs to get better glasses i think. One of your previous callers mentioned cspan needs to do Fact Checking. I love cspan, too, you are my only outlet for my true news, but i do think you need to cut people off when they are lying. And for sure, Kamala Harris did a lot of lying last night, and she should have answered yes or no. She would have demanded a yes or no at the judicial when she was interviewing kavanaugh, she would have demanded a yes or no answer. When they asked her about packing the courts. That is all i had to say. Host you talked about cutting people off when you think they are lying, i wonder how do you think that should work in a president ial debate setting . There has been a lot of discussion about that after the first president ial debate and even after the Vice President ial debate last night. How would you structure that . Caller it would be difficult. Host should there be a mute button . Caller i dont know how they would do that. I dont think susan dashboard is her last name . Bryce . She was great. I give her kudos. She did a great job, much better than Chris Wallace, but it would be difficult, it would. Im not going to say they should cut anybody off, but i am just saying with the Fact Checking, leave them alone on that debate because theres nothing you can do about that. I am just talking about cspan, and you know there are people out there saying this thing about the hoax, and saying that the soldiers that trump said they were losers and all this stuff i forgot what they said. But they said that they were losers i forgot what else he said. Anyway, when you know it is a lie, on cspan, that is when you should cut someone off calling in saying this. But at the debates, it is almost impossible. [laughter] it is just for that to go. Thank you for your time and you have a wonderful day, cspan. Host karen in North Carolina. And this is pedro from downstairs, about six floors below our studio. Pedro and we are talking about places beyond cspan and the United States. Steve miller reporting that according to the Afghanistan Taliban on thursday, they which the tweet in president promised to have the last of u. S. Troops out of afghanistan. That is supposed to take place by christmas. And on the topic of china, coming out of hong kong, saying that the president has paid out against china over the coronavirus, promising beijing it will pay a big price for what they have done to the world. It was not your fault this happened, it was chinas fault. He said that in a video released wednesday, adding that china will pay a big price for what they have done to the country. Beijing had expected this type of rhetoric following the president s infection, with aggressive language reminiscent of threats made to iran earlier a his presidency, comes at difficult time, and all areas where the u. S. Already engaged militarily or could easily be dragged by any conflict. That again was from siena. From cnn. Host we are coming up on 9 30 eastern with half an hour left in our program today. Just to remind you on where we are this morning, without we would spend all three hours talking about the Vice President ial debate, but news develops. First from the commission on president ial debates, announcing earlier this morning that the next town hall debate, that october 15 debate in miami, would be a virtual debate, where Vice President joe biden, President Trump would be in separate, remote locations with townhall participants in the together atuld be that debate hall site in miami, and they would conduct it that way. A. M. Resident around 8 00 eastern going on foxbusiness, and in that interview, indicating that he isnt interested in participating in a town hall debate. We heard from the Biden Campaign via reporting and twitter, as well, saying that they do intend to participate in the october 15 debate. We will see where we are today, but we are getting your reaction to that and still if you want to talk about the Vice President ial debate, you can do that. Phone lines, republicans or supporters of President Trump and mike pence can call in at 202 7488001. Supporters of joe biden and Kamala Harris, 202 7488000. If you are undecided, or support a thirdparty candidate, 202 7488002. On that undecided line, this is marie out of michigan. Good morning. Caller good morning. Yes, i am undecided. I was an independent for 30 years, and then two years ago, i did become a largest registered democrat. I worked for the Bernie Sanders campaign. Even though i am a registered democrat, i did not take an oath to the democratic party. I am going to wait it out and keep my vote open. I think what the president ial i think with the president ial debate, in my opinion, you had a madman debating the court, and in the Vice President ial debate last night, you had a breath of a man that abating fly mistook as a court. I think that kamala did very well. I think they both did well. I was really surprised that Vice President pence did not go on the attack because biden is a horrible candidate. He got a few jobs in there, but then he lost me when he started lying about how great donald trump was. I think he should have left it and let people savor and remind me of how much i dislike joe biden. Youportables deplorables, i am not above voting for donald trump out of spite. Right im probably leaning tos Holly Hawkins. For me its health care, thats my number one issue. Kamala did ahink wonderful job. I think she did everything right. Felt, maybe i moved a little closer to that side. But im still undecided. Host to let voters know, Holly Hawkins is the 2020 Green Party Nominee for president. Easy enough to find if you want to check out his work and what he has been tweeting about in where he is going on the campaign trail. ,his is john out of valhalla new york, on the line for those who support the biden harris ticket. Caller good morning, sir. How are you . Host im doing well, john. Caller i thought that last , mike penceebate and donald trump are both liars and dont know how to tell the truth. Biden why im voting for and, what you call it. Thats all i have to say. , cincinnati, ohio. Supports the president. Caller yes, one problem i see that we are overlooking that we really need to look at is the cities that are run by democrats and the riots there that are taking place, in portland and other cities. The president offered to help, they rebuffed his help. You have to really look at that. That is a major problem, even though its not on the news do you wantagan that to continue, sanctioned by democratic politicians . To answerr refusal the question about packing the court. The Supreme Court. I noticed last night how kamala sidestepped that question several times. Joe biden refusing to answer questions, its like buying a new car without turning on the engine to see if the engine runs. We cant do the nancy pelosi we have to vote for it to find out whats in it. Sorry, we are not electing a homecoming king and queen. We are electing a president and we have to look at their policies. Finally, dealing with the individual stimulus package, i think the president has it correct, do it separately. They put all this stuff, all these unrelated issues into the package and they want everybody to vote for it. But thats not what really should happen. He said he would support the individual stimulus piece by piece. People need to work together. Democrats, they need to actually the pork, push it one by one through, and the American People need to take a look at this and realize we are not just electing personalities. We are looking at policies and the stark difference between these camps is very different. If you look at the response to the riots in major cities, their response and sanction of it, i ask the question, do you want that coming to your door . I know i dont. Host in ohio, talking about responses, Vice President joe president ing about trump saying hes not interested in a virtual debate next week. Heres joe biden from a little earlier this morning. [video clip] we dont know what the president is going to do. He changes his mind every second. For me to comment on it now would be irresponsible. Im going to follow the commissions recommendation. He goes off to have a rally . I dont know what ill do. [inaudible] we dont know enough to know, right now. I will talk to you later about it. Im hearing the same things you are hearing as we go. Former President Joe Biden today. Former Vice President joe biden, earlier today. Heading to arizona as a part of their continued campaigning. We will be covering the events they are participating in live at 5 p. M. Eastern time today here on cspan, cspan. Org. You can listen to it on the free cspan radio app. Current Vice President mike pence is headed to arizona as well. Pra, arizona. That event is at 2 30 p. M. Eastern. Again, here on cspan, cspan. Org, listen to it on the free cspan radio app. Back downstairs to pedro. What have you got . News reporting the coronavirus outbreak has infected 34 white house staffers and other contacts in recent days according to an internal government memo, an indication that the disease spread among more people than previously known at the seat of the american government. The memo was distributed amongst Senior Leadership at fema, a branch of the department of homeland security, and the Agency Responsible for managing the continued response to the Public Health disaster. You can read more of that at abc news. The assistant commander of the marine corps has tested positive for coronavirus days after he and members of the joint chiefs of staff were at a meeting with the coast guard leader that was infected. General Gary Thompson tested positive, becoming the latest to be infected by the virus, including the president and a topper a of staff. If you go to a couple of tweets related to covid19 as well, just in from abc news, when the president stayed at walter reed hospital, you remember, back in 2019, his colleagues finding out that the president required walter reed doctors to sign nondisclosure agreements back in 2019. That garnered a response by representative bill pascrell, democrat from new jersey, adding that the doctors are told to sign nondisclosure disagreements, he says its totally normal and raises no red flags at all. Also, those ndas are not enforceable. , out of grand prairie, texas, on the line for those who support the biden harris ticket. Good morning. Hello . O caller host go ahead. Caller good morning, thank you. I wanted to commend you for your nonbiased views. To the person that mentioned you should cut people off, i think that just allowing us to express our thoughts, we commend you and thank you for that. Im more of a democrat, but i more about policy and im just really about just tired of the division, the racial tension and everything under this administration. The denial, not answering questions, etc. Its starting to, its just getting annoying. I think that, regarding the debate last night, kamala did exceptional. Herink somebody mentioned facial expressions. Her having to put up with pence continuously going over his time, i think she did a great job. She had a smile on her face. Giving the American People what we came for. That was to hear what is actually going to happen when we potentially get a new administration in this office. I wanted to point out also, im not sure where most of the republican is getting the trunk shut the country down. Hes left it up to the states to shut the country down and that didnt happen, throughout the country, which is why we are still dealing with this pandemic. Under this administration, if we continue with this administration, we are going to continue to have this pandemic for years and years to come. For trump to flaunt this miraculous cure that hes flaunting now is a deadly slap in the face. Toevery american was able receive this treatment, yes, it would be a miracle. Is next out of washington. Undecided, good morning. Caller good morning, there. I thought the debate was pretty even. 5050. They both dodged questions, you know . They both kind of lied a lot. Forl, i didnt vote president in 2016. I dont know, i dont see any persuasion this year either. Thats pretty much what i think. When is the last time you did vote for a president . Caller 2012 for romney after voting for obama in 2008. So. Host have you, in terms of not voting, is it not having someone on the ballot that inspires you . Caller pretty much. I mean if this is what america can put forward, we are in a pretty bad place. If you could have chosen someone this year, who would have gotten you up to go vote . Kind ofyou know, i liked ted cruz a little bit this year. There were some younger democrats that i think might be pretty well. I know is a country we are going pretty liberal. Its just the way its going to go, you know, in the future. So we have to kind of look forward to that, i believe. But then again, theres different liberalism then what i agree with sometimes. But well just have to see. But you are a fan of conservative republican ted cruz . Caller yeah, i just like his demeanor. Hes got a pretty good background. But then again, you never know. This is hannah out of gaithersburg, maryland. Good morning. To say,i just want listen, no one is perfect. I have seen the good and bad qualities of all the previous president s for the last 40 years that i have been voting. I would say that trump isnt perfect, either, but he is the perfect man for the job of presidency. No one in their right mind would vote for brain dead biden. You dont give someone with diminished mental capabilities the codes to the nukes. Its not a good decision. The man has got dementia or alzheimers. Its just, its pathetic that they even put him up. Thats really the disgrace there. I was a democrat for 26 years. On another note, i want to say that for me im sick of the politicians. All they have done is lie to us forever. The reason i voted for trump last time and will vote for him this time is because hes not a politician and he makes decisions not based on poles, which way the wind is blowing, he makes the decision about whats right. By shutting down travel from china in january, he saved millions of lives. Biden didnt even acknowledge the coronavirus until march. The day, do news of you think that not participating in the next president ial debate, it being a virtual debate, the president objecting to a virtual debate, do you think that is a good decision by the president . Caller i think the debates are a joke, ok . The questions are all slanted in a negative manner towards trump. Its pathetic. They even did it last night. The media, the media is nothing more than a Propaganda Machine for the democratic already, which is now the communist marxist socialist party. If that is what you want in this country, guess what, that is what you will get if you vote for biden and harris. Communist marxist. The whole thing with lockdown . In 2010 the Rockefeller Foundation put out a foundation called the scenarios for future of technology and International Development and in it they had a scenario, and i encourage your readers, your viewers to go out and read it. In it they had a lockstep scenario where they described the total control and authoritarian leadership of the government where they create this pandemic and they release it into society and they shut down everything and that is exactly whats happening. Host alright. That was hannah in gaithersburg, maryland. Baltimore, on the line for the biden harris ticket, go ahead. You for cspan and allowing us to voice our opinion. Thoroughly appreciate that. Two brief comments. One on the lady who spoke on the Kamala Harris sexual expression and the other who spoke on the trump facial expressions and the other who spoke on trump policies. Oftenicanamerican are misclassified as angry black women when we express frustration, confusion, anything that shows on our face because we are passionate people. I was expecting people to misclassified miss harriss facial expressions. I see it all the time. Its sad that we have a president that can yell and scream and curse and a Vice President that cuts people off and then they talk about misses harriss facial expressions. Thoroughly, thoroughly made me see red. Policy, thedents middleclass tax cuts were not for me. I paid more in taxes last year. I live in maryland. The state taxes, i paid more in state taxes, the cutoff was 5,000. Statetwice that amount in taxes. I didnt get the benefit of that. Home insurance points, i dont get the benefit of that because it is cut off. I paid more in taxes. Its not a middleclass tax cut. His cutting back regulations means more pollution, more, more sick eric, sick water. The businesses, now, do not have to spend money to make a safe. Yes,people see this, businesses love that because they dont have to spend money. But then we are getting worse as a people. About 15 minutes left in our program and we are taking you back downstairs to pedro. Several times this morning, some viewers have mentioned by name, regeneron, you will remember the New York Post has reported that they asked the feds for approval of the experiment of coronavirus drug that the president edits for helping him fight off the virus. The biotech firm has requested authorization for the socalled antibody cocktail to improve the body response to covid19. In a Statement Released late wednesday, it came as the president touted the unbelievable drug that he put in quotes in a fiveminute twitter video that we have been showing you portions of all morning. Let me do a 182 talk about the president ial nominee for the Supreme Court, Amy Coney Barrett. From the interview on talks on fox news, i nearly one hour conversation from what im seeing, one of them saying that the president says that if his nominee doesnt make it and isnt confirmed, its the republicans fault. He made that conversation this those comments this morning. Saying that theres no reason why not, he said, when the host asked about the possibility that she would not be confirmed before the election. Another story from fox news from the democratic perspective, interviewing senator chris coons , one of the key people to watch in these proceedings, adding that there is no procedural move hes aware of that allows the minority to slow the process down at all. Isgoes on to say that that one of the things the general public doesnt appreciate. As long as the republican it majority is willing to change the rules and move ahead, even when its demonstrably unsafe and unwise to do so, theres nothing the democratic minority can do to stop them. Those hearings are set for next week and we invite you to stay close to cspan for uninterrupted covering of the hearing as they gavel in and out starting on monday at 9 00. You can see that on cspan, cspan. Org it, and you can listen to it free courtesy of our radio app. Last 10 minutes this morning, paul out of beaumont, texas. Undecided voter, good morning. Go ahead, paul. Yeah, i was singing about old trump. He could make America Great again, you know, as far as healthwise. You know, weve got a lot of people dying. 200,000, you know. Wear told the people to the face masks, like when you go to the hospital and everything, highly contagious areas, doctors wearing face masks. Visiting a relative, highly contagious, you are supposed to wear a face mask. Its that simple. Its a disease that can be prevented. Trump, he has a lot of things to say. Hes talked about god, a blessing that he got that from god. I dont think so. It just doesnt make any sense. You know question mark trump did a lot of wrong to the refugees that came across the border. He was supposed to help them, you know, not separate them and send the parents back. How would you feel if that happened to you . Where the United States got so bad that we had to leave this place and go to another place like peru. You know . With our families and they would say no, you cant come here, even though you have been persecuted. We will take her children, though, but we will send you back home. Its not right. Its a lot of things. God is going to straighten out trump. We all is governed by god. In beaumont, paul texas. Pat in plano, texas, good morning, the line for those who support the trumppence ticket. High, good morning. Arent we all in a fine pickle . We have a president who has covid. Host im listening, pat. Caller im just saying, good morning, arent we all in a fine pickle. A president who has covid. A vp nominee who is basically got cotton candy for a brain. So i dont know, its not much of a choice, but i will go with trump. As far as Kamala Harris, i just listened to the debates. I dont want to listen to it anymore, i have got my mind made up. Why was she not the nominee for president . Vp . Think shes great for she definitely will be president. Think about that before you go voting for her. In jonesville, virginia. Good morning on the line for those who support the biden harris ticket. Hello. I see it. I watch the news and everything. I get so sick of them saying blue states, blue states. You are not the president just for the republicans. You are the president of the blue states also. We are one country. You need to be fighting for everybody. Not just certain people. Mcconnell needs to get his head out of the sand. Graham in South Carolina, these people is going to put us in the worst shape that we have ever been in before in my life. I am 72 years old and i have , seen ourmy lifetime state and such the shape that it is right now. I am pure ashamed of it. Takingou, darling, for my call and you have a blessed day. Thats brenda in virginia. You mentioned Lindsey Graham in South Carolina. Chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, the committee moving the nomination hearings for judge Amy Coney Barrett onto the Supreme Court. Some news on his reelection prospects. Earlier this week Jessica Taylor joined us from the nonpartisan Cook Political Report to talk about race ratings. That was, that interview we had with her earlier this week for she announced that they were moving the rating on this race from liens republican to tossup. Of the most a dozen closely watched races of the cycle, this one moving into the pure tossup category. It was a race that was in the likely republican category earlier this year. Again, cook political. Com if you want to check out all the race ratings of all the different house, senate, governor, and of course the Electoral College president ial ratings as well. Sandy is in maplewood, new jersey, on the undecided line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host you have gotten turned on your television and listen and talk to your phone. Caller im calling because im undecided but im pretty much leaning towards biden and harris. I think that the Trump Administration has really put state. Ntry in its worst him and mitch mcconnell, these are the two worst people i have ever seen run our country. Harris go with biden and , i agree they would make the country a better place to live in and for other countries to respect. Because right now people have no respect for us. Host why do you classify yourself still as undecided not vote forht you the biden harris ticket . I think that biden is a little too old. Think hes better, hed be better for the country than trump. Host thats sandy in new jersey. Pedro . A lot of things being discussed, one of the topics being the u. S. Census. The hearings of appellate judges have decided to let the senses go throughout october. That was the ruling by the ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Panel in San Francisco, upholding part of the district preliminary injunction last month, rejecting part of it. The preliminary injunction suspended the deadline for finishing the census and the december 31 deadline for submitting numbers used to determine how many congressional seats go to each state, a process called apportionment. They reverted back to a previous plan that had Field Operations ending on october 31 with a portion of those figures at the end of april. If you go to upi, the story on the Trump Administration emergencyn this, request on wednesday to intervene and award immediate relief to allow the the end of head counting after an Appeals Court ruled to keep the count going. In the request of the acting solicitor general said that if they continue the effort to halloween, the bureau will fail to order its findings to the president by the statutory deadline and that every passing day exacerbates the serious risk that the order to continue Field Operations and delay postprocessing will make it impossible for the bureau to comply with the statutory reporting deadline, according to the acting solicitor general. Pedro, doing yeomans work this morning keeping us uptodate on all the news that has been happening. Just a few minutes left this morning on washington journal, keeping you uptodate on all the news. Randleman, North Carolina, on the line for those who support the trumppence ticket, go ahead. Caller yes, the colors earlier from ohio were right on. All of these people for biden talking about how much trump lies, but if you go back to the 1970s when biden was in the you know, he lied and lied and lied to. And every time he got caught up in it. You know . He was plagiarizing. He was copying other peoples speeches and then using them for his own. Thats all i have. Have a good day. Is shay from the lone star state. Good morning. Morning, good to be here on your show, sir. Im incensed that donald trump communistala harris a. Hes projecting on someone else, its amazing. I would hope that the American People would look at the 10 traits of a sociopath. Donald trump meets every one of those traits magnificently. To have a sociopath in the white house, the pathological lying, the misuse of his power, knowingly and intentionally giving us false information, its negligent and causes great harm to the people. Kamala harris, biden, what a godsend. The American People in this country, they will save them. Heading north of the cornhusker state, margaret on the trumppence ticket. I was not aller fan of obama and biden. We didnt go out and do some damage. The other thing is, this president has brought us out of all kinds of problems. Doelieve he will continue to that. The problem is the democratic anyone to not allow think differently than themselves. To be for biden, or for the president. That biden doesnt get in, or we will be in the same situation that venezuela is. Thanks again. Host margaret in lincoln, nebraska, our last call her today, but we will of course be back here today tomorrow morning at 7 a. M. Eastern. In the meantime, have a great thursday. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2020] heres whats ahead today live on cspan. Coverageeastern, live of Nancy Pelosis News Conference on economic aid in response to the coronavirus and mas talks with the white house continue. Then we will take you live to the Vice President Pence Campaign rallies in peoria, pennsylvania. Arizona. And then the joe biden Kamala Harris Campaign Event in phoenix. After last nights Vice President ial debates, changes to the president ial debate. In an interview with fox news, President Trump says he will not in the president ial debate against joe biden scheduled for a week from today, this after the commission on president ial debates announced the debate would be work virtual. The Trump Campaign manager said that