and has the cameras outside their house, do you think when dominic cummings went outjogging outside his house in front of the cameras on wednesday, he was actually taking the mickey out of matt hancock who likes to do a bit of a jog in front of the cameras? do you think dominic cummings is that calculating, to embarrass people? he is definitely that calculating. whether that was the motive or not, i don't know, but i think every single move that he does in these situations is choreographed. he was a special adviser, he was someone who was paid to think about how the media were going to react to different announcements and i think he is very good at it. let us just remind ourselves of one of the things that you said to him, dominic cummings, in that hearing that your committee did a couple of weeks ago. let us just remind ourselves. the cabinet secretary said - to the prime minister in almost the first meeting when he came back, prime minister, _ the british system is not set up to deal with a secretary i of state who repeatedly lies in meetings. -