that you can simultaneously have, as in the 1930s -- you're quite right about that -- you can have a kind of uprush of adrenaline-driven populist fury, a kind of animal lashing out really. scapegoa scapegoats. in father coughlin's case it was the jews among others. at the same time, if you have a shrewd, determined canny leader of true setting the bar very high like franklin roosevelt and those around him. he can actually sponge up some of that anger and say, i understand you, i hear you and the presidency and my government is not the enemy of the forgotten man, of the small man. here is what we're trying to do to make sure you and your children -- at the moment, we have to say barack obama has only, we would only give him a "b," at best, doing that.